It is so powerful in a mode where you can't Recall that a large chunk of players are taking it. Combine that with how overwhelmingly strong Coup De Grace is and you have a near mandatory set of runes for the game mode. Why in the hell does this ability not have a cooldown? As teamfights are common, going from 10% back to 60+ is downright broken. It makes overbearing steam-roll tactics the go-to, as they don't need to stop/worry about health.
Is this intended?
Professor Ward56 votesAram main, dont know why you were downvoted you are absolutely correct, no matter how pissed off you sound.
First let me say triumph is an absolute aram must take on EITHER OF ITS TWO EFFECTS
Takedowns after a .5 second delay, restore 15% missing health/mana Takedowns grant an additional 25g
In aram assists are so frequent that this becomes INSANE, instant heal, and assists over DOUBLE in value.
Considering 50 takedowns a game in aram isnt even close to hard, and the fact that its stronger than assist gold, and healing/mana is at a premium in aram, this shit is BUSTED.
Big Black Croc24 votesYou main aram? Damn, never seen that champion before.
Who is Taliyah9 votes[zombie-brand-clap]
Mhihnj3 votesi think it looks like this:
Melledoneus1 votesTo be fair you can't main a champ in ARAM.
It's random.
Big Black Croc3 votesNot when you have an Aram only account :)
Aσtsuke2 votesIt doesn't regen mana though, only HP, it was Dangerous Game which used to heal 5% missing health and mana.
100% agree with you though, as a guy who played over 4000 arams, makes tanks even more busted and mandatory than they already were, with the heal also getting increased by spirit visage, even without the extra gold it would be still insanely good.
The PBE nerfs on it may be for this, it's not that powerful in normals except if you snowball or get a very active and agressive team.
Sasogwa24 votesDark Harvest is fun too tbh. Since so much people die, you get tons of stacks
YuGiHo5 votesyes, no one its talking about this but that rune is also busted on aram, it stack up way too fast and then you jut got form person to person with a 400+ damage autto attack on top of whatever else your champions kit offers
Sp33d Zer09 votesIMO the best runes in aram for EVERY CHAMPION. You can easily get at least 2 of these and dominate.
Dark Harvest Triumph Demolish Scorch coup de grace
If you are someone who can take any of those two in any combination of them, you have a default aram page.
DorkunedAuras10 votesScorch is crap though. The rest, yes, are good, but Scorch doesn't do that much damage.
Sp33d Zer01 votesIn a poke oriented game mode without much sustain available, 90+ dmg a minute ads up really quick
cocacolalips8 votesTriumph and Coup de Grace are too powerful and too popular on every champion on every map and are going to be nerfed (hopefully to the ground)
RocketRelm10 votesiirc they're too strong in regular play as well, and are getting nerfed.
I don't think into the ground, though, it'll still probably be mandatory. A large part of Triumph's benefit is the fact that it gives 25 gold per takedown, which adds up very quickly.
Giggling Granny4 votesso you want a mastery to nerfed for a mode that has no real meaning? what? its like saying "Riot gut veigar/velk/ziggs because they are strong in aram"
Its a mastery that the use of it its FOR RANKED games and normal games! The ARAM its complete different you cant ask for nerfs for a mastery because of ARAM..
Professor Ward4 votes[{quoted}](name=Giggling Granny,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KOE9jTWZ,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-11-26T20:16:57.436+0000)
so you want a mastery to nerfed for a mode that has no real meaning? what? its like saying "Riot gut veigar/velk/ziggs because they are strong in aram"
Its a mastery that the use of it its FOR RANKED games and normal games! The ARAM its complete different you cant ask for nerfs for a mastery because of ARAM..
youre so off with this man.
Big Black Croc4 votesMabey nerf the mastery in the game mode, rather than SR. Like hecarim,rumble,syndra got changed but only on URF.
Also, aram has meaning if most of the player base plays it if not only aram.
DarkRooster4 votesYou do know that other game modes has their own balance on items and rare times champions as well ? It would take them 5 min to tone down runes just especially for aram while leaving other modes unaffected.
And also you do know there is huge player base that doesn't play summoners but everything else ?
KoggyStyle3 votesif SR wasent a complete shithole, id be playing it more often.
SpiritOfOdysseus1 votes[{quoted}](name=Giggling Granny,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KOE9jTWZ,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-11-26T20:16:57.436+0000)
so you want a mastery to nerfed for a mode that has no real meaning? what? its like saying "Riot gut veigar/velk/ziggs because they are strong in aram"
Its a mastery that the use of it its FOR RANKED games and normal games! The ARAM its complete different you cant ask for nerfs for a mastery because of ARAM..
K. Its obvious youre one of those "HUR DUR ARAM TAKES NUR SKILL GIT GUD AND PLAY BORING ASS SR WHERE YOU DIE ONCE AND THEN SUFFER FOR 30 MINUTES"
[{quoted}](name=Giggling Granny,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KOE9jTWZ,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-11-26T20:16:57.436+0000)
so you want a mastery to nerfed for a mode that has no real meaning? what? its like saying "Riot gut veigar/velk/ziggs because they are strong in aram"
Theres no champ select in aram so whether or not u get those champs is completley random
Iffy Jarl1 votes[{quoted}](name=Giggling Granny,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KOE9jTWZ,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-11-26T20:16:57.436+0000)
so you want a mastery to nerfed for a mode that has no real meaning? what? its like saying "Riot gut veigar/velk/ziggs because they are strong in aram"
Theres no champ select in aram so whether or not u get those champs is completley random
Velzard of Koz3 votesYeah, I go Precision secondary on basically.... everything. That is except when my Precision is primary. Coup de Grace and Triumph have way too good synergy to ignore.
Kubox3 votesSo, I might get downvoted for this but I'll say it anyway (and please keep in mind it's a personal opinion and I'm not forcing anyone to agree with it) : I actually like how a single rune page can fit every champion in ARAM.
I feel for the ARAM mains since for them that might be a massive drop in quality, but as someone who plays ARAM occasionally for fun as well as for the fact that it gets me to play champions I don't usually play, having this one page that is never gonna fail me, thus letting me concentrate on a champion I might not be thoroughly familiar with is rather enjoyable. It used to be a massive stress whenever I'd queue into a game to get a champion, look at my team, decide if I want to switch or re-roll, then look up runes, look up masteries and then hoping I picked right.
I'm not saying it has to remain that way, but at the very least I'd be fine with it (and would personally prefer it).
SettDownShutUp4 votesI 100% respect this viewpoint. And I am DEFINITELY okay with Triumph healing in ARAM. Just... when a team-wipe occurs, the entire opposing team should not be back to full/near full health. A cooldown needs to be in place, or some form of debuff to prevent the full effect of more Triumph procs.
Kubox1 votesI don't remember what the rules for it are, but if the heal debuff from ARAM applies to Triumph, they could have it work similar to Heal where every Triumph in a short period heals less (Obviously restricted to ARAM).
And if the debuff isn't applying, then just make it apply to it.
Z3Sleeper3 votesIt’s not gamebreakingly powerful. Definitely nice to have. There are several powerful runes in other trees as well though.
MisoTroll3 votesARAM is a side show for the real game. I really don't understand how people can realistically expect, let alone demand, that it's balanced...The balance team can't even manage to knock marksmen down a peg after nearly a year of abuse, and yet you think they'll be able to simultaneously balance an entire secondary game mode? lol
Cosnirak10 votesName checks out...
MisoTroll1 votesAlternate account. I don't post from my main on here. Not worth making enemies of people like you.
blackrose782 votesDon't waste your time arguing with people on the Boards. It's like a wasteland of bad players who don't know what they are talking about.
nice table2 votesnot running dank harvest on ARAM LUL
Mhihnj2 votesyou do realize that triumph is not a keystone? you can easily run both dark harvest and triumph by taking Domination primary and precision secondary
MangelinaJolie2 votesIf you aren’t taking this and Dark Harvest on literally every champion you are doing your team a disservice in ARAM.
Jasiwel3 votesDark Harvest or Press the Attack, maybe Comet if you're playing a CC-Mage (Morg, Cass, Brand, etc) or Aery if you're Sona/Karma/Shield-Bot.
Blue Moon Wolf2 votesHonestly unless Riot takes the time to make special ARAM rules for all the runes (which might be better in the long run since they could use those rules for specific Random Game Modes that can't work well with current runes) They may as well just make Runes unavailable in ARAM like they did with Overcharge. Even Runes like Kleptomancy and biscuit delivery have potential to become pretty broken in ARAM since they can heal/ restore mana in a map that healing and mana regen are supposed to be limited.
Long story short they need to do something with the Runes for ARAM, but who knows when that will be. They still have to fix everything up for the main game after going over the effects of the Runs on SR and they don't give ARAM that much attention to begin with.
who knows, maybe one day we will see ARAM pages pop up with ARAM only Runes. That could be cool to see. Runes that are map specific with free extra pages just for those modes.
FilDaFunk2 votesI don't even think they considered ARAM. I mean, dark harvest...
Dengeden2 votesBut a lot of melees have to sit back early, which makes it kinda inefficient on them.
The Deckowner2 votesRito gives 0 fuck about ARAM.
Theorex1 votesIts almost like dangerous game. But now everyone can have it instead of people who ran the cunning tree :D
Serophous1 votesARAM games are in terrible place ATM. I'm lucky I they last to 15 min now. 20 is a rarity.
ModCaptainMårvelous1 votesI have more trouble with Dark Harvest on aram tbh.
Souls drop so frequently and fast that you have people running with 200 souls at 6 minutes who blow up your health bar without a second thought. Triumph is nasty but it requires you to be alive.
Emerald Fang1 votesAgree; in fact I exploit this on every champ in ARAM
SettDownShutUp1 votesAfter playing Thresh with Dark Harvest, I agree. One battle at a time as they say.
BLACK REALM GOD1 voteswhat about the guardian skill that lets you "charge up while near turrets in order to deal significant added damage in one attack to the turret" in a game mode where you're always near the turret i think that this skill is pretty fun.
