Give all assassins the same base HP as Anivia

Cloud273··6 votes·1,032 views

Champions like Fizz, Leblanc, Talon, etc. Whenever someone complains about them, you always defend them by saying they're "squishy". But in reality, they're not squishy at all. Champions like Yasuo, Anivia, Lux, and Ezreal are squishy. If you want to make the argument that assassins are "squishy" to justify their broken kits, their base HP should be lowered.

I just wanted to say it isn't one assassin by itself that bothers me. But when you get stuff like Rengar, Fizz, Talon, Akali, etc (insert assassin) top, an assassin mid, and an assassin in the jungler, the combined burst is just too much to handle. You survived Rengar's burst? Well you still have the Akali top and Talon mid to deal with.

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FacerollKatarina5 votes

YASUO? SQUISHY? LOL

RyzeRework1 votes

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YASUO? SQUISHY? LOL

he has low base hp he just has a sheild in his kit

Cloud2731 votes

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YASUO? SQUISHY? LOL

Rengar, Kha'zix, and Talon all have higher base HP than Yasuo. Your move.

Yummy Sashimi1 votes

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Rengar, Kha'zix, and Talon all have higher base HP than Yasuo. Your move.

They don't have double crit chance. Your move now.

Cloud2731 votes

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They don't have double crit chance. Your move now.

Just stop. This isn't about their kits. Most assassins in this game have higher base HP than Yasuo, and you know it.

Yummy Sashimi1 votes

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Just stop. This isn't about their kits. Most assassins in this game have higher base HP than Yasuo, and you know it.

Then what's there to talk about? Their kits are what makes them assassins. If you don't talk about their kits, then what do you talk about? Also, Yasuo isn't an assassin. The champions' base stats are balanced around the power of their kits.

Cloud2731 votes

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Then what's there to talk about? Their kits are what makes them assassins. If you don't talk about their kits, then what do you talk about? Also, Yasuo isn't an assassin. The champions' base stats are balanced around the power of their kits.

What's your point? Just because he's not an assassin it doesn't mean he should be squishy as hell. Assassins actually have higher base hp than Yasuo, and they have more reliable ways of reaching their targets that Yasuo doesn't have. The crits don't even deal full damage. And he is a melee champ. He needs to get close to people to do anything. He doesn't have stealth, leaps, MS boosts, etc to help him get close to people.

Yummy Sashimi1 votes

You are only talking about one aspect of a champion, you have to look at the champions as a whole, that includes their base stats. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Yasuo has some of the most reliable ways of engaging to his target with his e and he can ult anyone through a knock up. He isn't squishy due to how many times he can refresh his shield in a team fight.

FacerollKatarina1 votes

Yeah but yasuo is harder to kill

Guy Fox Teemo2 votes

1: I doubt you'll ever get 3 assassins on one team, if you do thats an easy win as they have a terrible team comp. 2: Those assassins are squishy, the base HP generally only matters for the first few lvls about 1-9, after that the HP difference at lvl 18 (200) is barely anything. 3: Assassins aren't broken, so please stop QQ'ing. :)

360D3GR3SS2 votes

The reason Anivia has that low base hp is because of her ability to completely recover it.

Lugg2 votes

Amen brother. The myth that assassins are squishies is laughable. When it's literally easier to kill a Nautilus than an assassin, something is seriously wrong.

Naomi CoffeeGoat1 votes

I'll just give my input and say the thing about assassins being squishy is true for the most part. They probably just blow you up before you cut down their hp. Not to mention most have access to some form of sustain and will build into it. Also to take into account is that the job of an assassin is to kill the highest priority target and get out as quick as possible. When in reality if you lock them with hard CC they can easily be taken down from your team's damage dealer. Also Yasuo just happens to have a shield he can have proc multiple times in fights.

CHOPSTICKUHH1 votes

Why don't we give all assassins the same base ap, dmg, movement, attack speed, and armour... They just burst you before you can do anything, but if you catch them out they're beyond easy to kill

Jalkan1 votes

They get to have higher base health than Anivia because they are melee, and because they don't have a revive passive.

Cloud2731 votes

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They get to have higher base health than Anivia because they are melee, and because they don't have a revive passive.

But they have stealth, healing abilities, slows, repositioning abilities, and ms boosts in their kits. These abilities offer way more survivability than some stupid egg that's only up every 5 minutes.

forist1 votes

Yes, rito pls give all melee champs the same hp as ranged mages like anivia. Its not like they need to get close to do damage or anything.

The Bearded Bard1 votes

I'ma go ahead and take yasuo and lux off of that list because shields OP.

pxst1 votes

Actually what really make melee assassin tankier is their build path and item choice , morgana kid can be tanky too with roa and rylai and still one q w over half health on squishy , they maybe have 200 health more which is rather inefficient too compare , they are not squishy , really? Akali is very ez to denied by putting a pink ward in the cycle , bam she's dead. Zed ikr easily shut down by zhonyas , if talon ult in he will not come out alive when invisibility runs out , anivia and lux can stay at the back spamming poke , it's fair for melee got more health ,. If you want to nerf their health what about making their poke to 1000 range like anivia , fair?

Obiwan Jhinobi1 votes

Ok but than they also need a revive passiv to compare this low hp

Ralanr1 votes

Yes...because Pantheon needs to be more squishy despite being built as an offtank if he isn't building damage.

By all assassins you're including primary and secondary assassins.

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