Does Fiora's Riposte /really/ need to be able to block summoner spells?

King of Mongoose·May 13, 2017·11 votes·636 views

cus it does right now and it's not fun to waste ignite

30 Comments

JoxcabMay 13, 201713 votes

Yes. No one cares if it's not fun for you.

Ignite and Exhaust are instant. AKA, the only way she can parry it is either:

She literally predicts it.
You're a dumbass and use it when she's in her parry animation after she began the parry.

King of MongooseMay 13, 20175 votes

bronze 3 don't post in my thread

JoxcabMay 13, 20179 votes

Make a real counter point then talk.

King of MongooseMay 13, 20173 votes

downvoting in a forum 1v1 LUL

it's unnecessary power that should be shaved off for the unlucky event that she does parry it

JoxcabMay 13, 20176 votes

No, it doesn't make sense. She parries all damage and CC and debuffs. Ignite is damage. Exhaust is CC/debuffs.

Get over it or don't be an idiot and wait till it's over until you use it. Not her fault she gets rewarded for predicting an instant cast ability.

King of MongooseMay 13, 20173 votes

she doesn't need to be able to parry summoners

JoxcabMay 13, 20177 votes

No one cares about your opinion.

It follows the same rules. All damage, CC, and debuffs are blocked. Summoners fall under that.

It's insanely hard to do and she should be appropriately rewarded if she can properly predict it. Same as parrying any other instant ability.

If the enemy is an idiot who uses it during her parry animation, they deserve it.

TimX24968BMay 13, 20172 votes

riot also doesn't "need" to listen to your suggestions.

TimX24968BMay 13, 20172 votes

just because you haven't found a way to fight her with your main doesn't mean you need to beg for nerfs/buffs.

MrHaZeYoMay 13, 20172 votes

To be fair, he is right.

That obviously isn't his real account either unless he just spams forums and doesn't actually play League. He's hiding behind a B3.

AgentBlackMay 13, 20173 votes

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bronze 3 don't post in my thread

Sucks to be wrong, doesn't it?

ZephyrDrakeMay 13, 20172 votes

[{quoted}](name=King of Mongoose,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KAnQhnKB,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-05-13T19:42:38.330+0000)

bronze 3 don't post in my thread

it's sad that a bronze 3 is smarter than you right? it's sad that you have zero argument and have to rely on rank shaming because you are unable to think of a legit answer right? everything he said is true so either come up with a valid argument or do not post yourself

AwhegarkMay 13, 20171 votes

You know what really has to be fixed is that huge attack speed slow even when she misses her riposte. It is what allows her to 1v1 anyone and they don't have an idea why.

JoxcabMay 13, 20171 votes

Because she has no other way to duel someone like Tryndamere or other attack speed carries? She is supposed to be able to 1v1 anyone if she is good enough. And if she missed it, they wouldn't get slowed. It's still a skillshot with a windup animation time.

And if she uses it pre-emptively, that means she can't parry anything for the rest of the entire fight with its cooldown.

AwhegarkMay 13, 20171 votes

But why must she counter the entire roaster of melee champions though?. She already rekts tanks and plenty of juggernauts. Why does she also have to counter melee carries, this is not healthy for the game.

JoxcabMay 13, 20172 votes

She doesn't counter anyone inherently. She has to outduel whatever person she does duel to win any fight. Whoever plays better will win.

But obviously if you're not good at 1v1 dueling, you'd have a harder time as opposed to another 1v1 duelist.

AwhegarkMay 13, 20171 votes

Even if you don't want to use the word counter she still does good against almost everyone top lane, even if you play better than fiora you won't be able to kill her if shes not a first time player. Then by 20 minutes she has scaled harder than anyone and is on her way to winning team fights, as long as her team is semi competent, which makes no sense why should a duelist also be allowed to be a good teamfighter.

JoxcabMay 13, 20171 votes

Playing better doesn't automatically mean you kill someone. It means you win the trade. Which you will if you are better.

Because she's not that good of a team fighter. She has a parry yes but the cooldown is long enough she can only use it once a fight. A team has more than one thing she needs to parry. If she goes for the carry for the ult heal, she'd be taken apart.

TimX24968BMay 13, 20171 votes

she counters the entire roster of melee champions

tell that to a Darius . unless he's an idiot and lets you get free hits with your passive, rethink that statement.

AwhegarkMay 14, 20171 votes

Fiora goes even against darius and sometimes wins that matchup, look it up. SH e can dogde his q with her dash.And if he tries to pull she riposte stuns him.

I don't have to rethink my statement cause I have mastery 6 darius, and I have laned against fiora many times.

TimX24968BMay 14, 20171 votes

no, thats what happens when you fail to think while fighting a fiora, instead of learning how to bait things out.

AwhegarkMay 14, 20171 votes

That sentence absolutely made no sense, and I regret having replied to you the first time( not this one though).

Learning to bait things out is not skill cause your enemy can do the same thing, so if you are both equally skilled, you will both bait each other things out(or you will both not get baited by the other person)and we are back at square one.

Honestly I think majority of people on this boards don't even play this champions and just talk out of their assess. Anyhow, my point stands that Fiora goes even and scales harder than Darius, by late game.

Maybe play some actual darius versus fiora matchups, like I have ,and then tell me how it went so I can believe that you actually know what you are talking about.

TimX24968BMay 14, 20171 votes

I can tell you right now, with darius as my third most played champion, that I have fought and won against many fioras. The only time I ever lost was when I failed to acknowledge the vitals "gimmick" which let her just get a ton of free damage. At least I can bait her out with it and punish her for it, since Its pretty easy to just position and bait her into very bad spots. Not to mention, people who tend to pick fiora tend to also ban darius.

Sexy Jack RabbitMay 13, 20171 votes

I don't think the attack speed procs if she misses the projectile.

JoxcabMay 13, 20171 votes

Exactly. She sets up the box on the ground which indicates where the parry will fire. Anyone hit by it will get the attack speed slow. It's not instant and has a windup animation (which is the duration she's parrying all incoming damage/debuffs/cc).

LyndrisMay 13, 20171 votes

Isn't it also single target?

JoxcabMay 13, 20171 votes

Yes. Only the first person hit within the parry range marker. However, it is possible for the one who threw the CC spell to get someone else CC'd. For instance, if Lux was standing behind Ashe and threw Light Binding at Fiora, and Ashe was within the Riposte range, Ashe would eat the reflected CC, not Lux.

To clarify, all people hit by the W hitbox will take the magic damage. However, only the first champion hit will be slowed/attack speed slowed/potentially stunned.

LyndrisMay 14, 20171 votes

To clarify, all people hit by the W hitbox will take the magic damage. However, only the first champion hit will be slowed/attack speed slowed/potentially stunned.

Did not know it damaged everyone. But the damage isn't that good is it?

JoxcabMay 14, 20171 votes

Correct, the damage is next to nothing anyways.

TimX24968BMay 13, 20171 votes

thats called "bait it out", or wait like 1 second...