Bronze 5 noob here

creatureplex·Apr 18, 2016·1 votes·1,009 views

I went on a 4 game win streak one my placement match then won 2 in the higher up than lost 3 in a row went back to 4 then won 3 went back to placement lost 4 in a row won once then lost 3 then won then lost than won than lost 2 in a row. Anyways I need help keeping my wins consistant. Like I myself feel like I'm getting better my cs is getting higher my kda is getting better my decisions all around feel like they are getting better I try helping my teammates like a Le Blanc that was getting her ass kicked by a Lee Sin even though I sent that mofo packing with an 0-2 start by ganking mid. I do what I can but how you carry when nobody listens to you?

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Unfortunate GameApr 18, 20162 votes

You look to be an adc main? You want to be anywhere from 7-10 cs per minute. I try to aim for 9+, ideally more is better. Csing is best.

Adc tips that you may or may not know:

Don't front line as the adc. Stay as far back and only in range of one target.
Cs more, csing is key in your elo, as no one will be doing it. Everyone will just want to fight, but if you farm = more money. You average around 4 cs per minute, you want to try to raise to 7 for now.
With a blue trinket and in bronze-silver games your map will be as dark as ever, so place your blue trinket down off cool down in spots you think would benefit you.
Buy at least 2-4 pinks per game.
Try not to pick immobile champions when the enemy has dive heavy champions: , etc.

You seem to be playing ashe/MF a lot, both are pretty good. I really like ashe and think shes underrated, so I guess thats fine as well. If youre ever feeling up for the challenge pick up: Ezreal - 1 v 5 carry in bronze, but more difficult to play. Caitlyn - Not hard to play, really strong, and just great, I really like her. Jhin - Beyond strong, super easy to play, and just will carry you. Sivir - I used to like her a lot when I first started this game, and shes still pretty decent (especially with this new buff to her w). Not as damage heavy as the others, shes more team fighting. KogMaw - If you ever make friends with a support pick up kogmaw and get on voice coms, you will 1 v 5 hes pretty strong (even after the nerf). *Kogmaw has good synergy with good peel supports: Alistar Braum Leona Janna , etc. Corki - You can play him mid or adc, I think hes pretty strong in both. Not hard to play either.

Any other questions i'll help you out buddy

creatureplexApr 18, 20161 votes

I base it a lot off synergy I pretty much no matter how much harassment I'm under I play top bot but regardless if I'm hugging tower or bullying a lane at top lane I'm out cs that mofo I average around 6 pinks a game seems like I'm the only one that buys them I always try keeping one on me at all times better to ward three areas around me rather than just 2, maybe more because of the blue ward. I play Ashe because her kiting skills and initiation is just really nice, I play Miss Fortune because her harass in lane is just pathetically op and I love her burst, I play twitch because well his q and his surprises being able to show up right in your face can really intimidate you. And I'm learning tristana with her right now love her ability to really 1 v 1 almost any marksman her e is strong and I like her w not so happy about her passive at the beginning but I do understand it just wish others would.

Unfortunate GameApr 18, 20161 votes

As long as you have more cs than your opponent youre fine, but more is better with cs, so try to cs it up.
Dont worry about what anyone says, especially about that elo, I usually /mute all, instantly when entering a game.
Try out lucian and ezreal for kiting, but theyre more mechanical and harder overall champions, although they are both stronger. Ezreal will be that 1 v 5 if you ever do pick him up. And lucian is just so strong, hes similar to mf (in a way...).

sounds good bro, good luck learning more and playing the game! and remember, doesnt matter what other people say, most of the people trying to criticize you are usually so bad and have no clue how to play this game properly or what to do.

Focus objectives, cs it up, and group with team. Im almost positive one of the freest ways to kill people in low elo is to get your team to sit in a bush sweep and deny all the vision and pile the guy who face checks it. Seems easy enough, but may take some coordination, idk.

creatureplexApr 18, 20161 votes

I don't like Ezreal's item set his item set is broken to me I think iceborn gauntlet needs to be a melee only weapon because it's too op on Ezreal and I do like Lucian but I like my set of champions and no matter what support it is I know one of my 4 adcs will work with them at least most of the time.

Unfortunate GameApr 18, 20161 votes

You can go item 3078 item 3508 on ezreal, it works perfectly fine. Im sure this will be the go to items when they finally nerf iceborn.

creatureplexApr 18, 20161 votes

Yeah I agree not trinity force probably essence reaver phanton dancer berserker greaves

Unfortunate GameApr 18, 20161 votes

item 3057 is key item on him, hence why it would be good. And you would get 10% cdr, 20 from ess reaver, and youd be going lucidity boots as usual. 40% cdr is crucial on ezreal.

creatureplexApr 18, 20161 votes

I play 10 champions in rank right now, my tanks for top lane are Trundle and Garen, than Jax, Teemo, Gangplank which I've gotten really good with Gangplank he took awhile though and last was weird I didn't think he be that good but I'm 3-0 with him in rank so far and that's Taric top lane. I play 4 adcs, miss fortune, ashe, twitch, and tristana. I like my champion pool I can still improve with them and I like what they bring to their team and I can work around their flaws.

Unfortunate GameApr 18, 20161 votes

Trundle - Really good. Keep at him, if you enjoy him. Garen - its garen, hes ok in low elo. Jax - Hes really good, maybe if you like him, play him some more as well. Teemo - You can go rageblade, witts end, bork, etc. build for split pushing and taking towers super easily. Look up the full build, im unsure of it, but I know itd be really good. You'd basically suicide for towers, or maybe have a chance to escape due to teemo being so quick, and itd be super good for you. Gangplank - I love him, im currently working on him. Trying to get really good with him, theres a ton of tricks with him and ways to play him. If you care for him and enjoy him a lot, you should main him. I think hes absolutely amazing, easily one of my favorites.

Your adcs are fine, twitch is so amazing in your elo because no one buys pink wards and their map awareness is disgustingly bad, so you can sneak up and theyd be none the wiser, so keep that up!

creatureplexApr 18, 20161 votes

Taric is really strong at top lane to he can't die lol.

Unfortunate GameApr 19, 20161 votes

Yeah. Theyre reworking him though, unsure how he'll be then. And hes mainly strong because of iceborn gaunt

creatureplexApr 19, 20161 votes

Actually that's not even a core item of mine zz rot portal and banner of command works very well with my taric

Unfortunate GameApr 19, 20161 votes

sounds troll haha

creatureplexApr 19, 20161 votes

I have to disagree because both of them work well with taric I'm not building ad or ap he's a tank resisting a lot of magic yes but the point of it is he's also a support so those two items go really well with him it's not trolling it's just 2 items that are strong for taric. I mean getting ohm-wrecker isn't troll or the other tower item, it's just a very strong item.

DoaenelApr 18, 20161 votes

Same thing happens to me, and I'm in Gold. All you can really do to be consistent is listen to the game. Somtimes when you go on let's say a 10 win streak, all it takes is that one game when noone listened for you to tilt and go on a 5 lose streak. Take breaks.

As for carrying, bud, just add the best player you had from every game and dynamicQ

creatureplexApr 18, 20161 votes

I'm boycotting dynamic q I don't support it I want it removed really makes the game unbalanced, but thanks for the advice

SrbLudApr 18, 20161 votes

Getting consistent in low ELO is hard unless you can hyper carry ( needs tons of game experience ). Basically your teammates are sometimes gonna suck when you're trying your best and vice versa. When you get on a winning streak ask yourself, what is this state of mind i'm at right now? Once you figure out what state of mind is your optimal game state, try and recreate that before playing ranked. That and a lot of practice if you're super serious about ranked...

creatureplexApr 18, 20161 votes

My state of mind is the same every game I can win my lane regardless of who I play against if I can win my lane that's all that matters as long as I know what my job is during team fights. When I shot call we win games I know when to fall back when to engage when to be aggressive and when to play passive but it always depends on the game I feel like I have the skill of around gold with the mechanics of a plat player that's stuck in bronze because when I started rank I sucked badly, I read practice and got better and now feel that there should be a league lower than bronze with what I have to see.

SrbLudApr 18, 20161 votes

Just remember mechanics and skill are not the deciding factors in LoL. It's experience. The longer you play the more you know about the game. Older players that are serious about ranked are mostly in high ELO. You just need to give it time. Once you "experience" the game by playing it a lot, that's when the skill factors in to either give you a push up the ladder or down... Being skilled with MOBAs in general will speed up the process for sure. So if you think you have the potentiall to climb but fail, just keep at it. That's the process of learning we sometimes refer to as ELO hell.

creatureplexApr 18, 20161 votes

Yeah but I'm a vet in my division I've playing around 120 games this season in rank and I'm sitting at the bottom of the list I move up I just get moved back down it sucks because though I know I'm getting better as a player most of these other people aren't, you still have that tristana morgana combo that our team just won a team fight we took 2 towers and an inhibitor, plus the 4th dragon, but they want to try to get more and end up dying and costing us a turret and an inhibitor and shortly afterwards the game.

SrbLudApr 18, 20161 votes

That's where you need that hypercarry. It's normal to have bad teammates in low ELO more often than not. Once you learn to hypercarry clymbing becomes easier. Junglers are best at this since you can scout the websites on who is the weakest link and start camping them. Feed on them. See if one of them is on a bad streak and break their morale. It'll rub off on his team. I know it sounds dirty but it's a viable option and no one can tell you it's a wrong thing to do.

creatureplexApr 18, 20161 votes

Yeah but you shouldn't have to riot needs to start putting individual skill into at least some of it rather than just whether you win or lose.

SrbLudApr 18, 20161 votes

In low ELO it was allways a bit harder to do since your team can be preaty bad most of the time. That's why you hypercarry your way out of there. Exploiting your enemies weakneses either by looking up the team or figuring it out by yourself. It was allways the fastest way up. Once you end up in higher ELOs you can count on your team more and don't have to worry a lot if someone is gonna throw the game. I got 2 accounts on EUW and EUNE out like that. Sadly with DQ it's a lot harder to do and i'm seriously thinking abandoning this one. But i like the challenge so i wander from bronze to silver and back looking for a chance to break out.

creatureplexApr 18, 20161 votes

That's the thing I just recently realized what hypercarring actually met I don't have to get the most kills or get the most assists it's more about me staying alive being in the team fights good positioning and all around helping us when the laning phase that's where I can help the most after that it's up to my team.

SrbLudApr 18, 20161 votes

Helping in team fights, staying alive, having good positioning is the way to go, but when you have a team of people that have no idea how to win, enter the hypercarry mode and crush your opponents. It's not bulletproof as you might fail but it's an option. General tip is keep playing and you'll get there.

creatureplexApr 18, 20161 votes

Thanks just rough played over 100 games I just kind of figure by now I should be out of bronze.

SrbLudApr 18, 20161 votes

Sometimes even veterans have problems getting out of bronze on alts ( me, climbing steady but this DQ is killing me ). I'm not the best player out there but still i know i shouldn't be in bronze. Climbing for the first time can be painfull and it will take time. Don't worry too much about climbing fast just for the sake of it ( i did that and now when i climb smurfs it could go slow ) . Focus on learning the mechanics and getting experience. That is what will ultimately help you and give you an edge. It's not a big deal if you end up in silver or bronze your first season... Hell it's your first season...

creatureplexApr 18, 20161 votes

I know it's my first I just thought that if I learn all the mechanics not make much mistakes I eventually get out then I found out because I lost so much at the beginning I have to pretty much bring my win loss rate back up first than I'll have a chance to get out problem is that's hard because the game purposefully tries it's best to keep you around a 50% win ratio. So it'll be months just to even out my kill death ratio than I'll finally be able to start climbing.

Terra D SerphApr 18, 20161 votes

If you can't see that you have a different state of mind regardless how well or poorly you do, then you need to reanalyze yourself. Unless you are part of the <1% of people who can actually keep their heads cool regardless of the situation, you probably have high happy moments and you probably have frustrating moments.

You might be great. You might be great when calling the shots, but if nobody's going to follow you, then you need to find another way to win. Whether that's reading who on your team you can help snowball, who on your team you can follow, learning how to capitalize on every mistake the enemy makes on your own, split pushing while your team defends(at this point you'll have to tell them not to fight), and other such tatics. You can't always be a leader, and sometimes you have to follow someone else's plan, because whether it's a better plan than yours or not, if the rest of the team likes that person better, they're going to follow that person, and not you.

creatureplexApr 18, 20161 votes

It's more about everyone for themselves the problem isn't that they're not following me everybody is in it for themselves, and you right I do get ticked off when I lose a match not just when I lose if we lost a close game that could of went either way I say gg it doesn't upset me, it's when we lost like my last 2 losses we should of won like really really we should not had lost. but towards the end my teammates made a few mistakes I tried turning it around but those few mistakes really cost us more than they probably understand even now, and they'll probably never understand what they did wrong.

Terra D SerphApr 18, 20161 votes

I don't know what to say, then. I was able to pull myself out of Bronze 5 2 years ago, when it was much worse than it is now. I might only be in Silver, but even I have seen improvement in just the last year alone. I'm sure if for some godforsaken reason someone hacked my account and dropped me down to bronze 5, I could pull myself back out. It's a hellhole in there for sure, but it doesn't take much to get out of it. It might just take some patience.

Some advice in that regard is that if you lose, don't play ranked for the rest of the day. Or at least a few hours, until you've had time to sleep on it, or just cool off.

creatureplexApr 18, 20161 votes

Well actually from everything I read it was easier to get out of bronze awhile ago because ello was lower than it is now, ntm now you have dynamic que which just makes it 10 times harder possible yes but hard.

Terra D SerphApr 20, 20161 votes

Honestly, in Bronze there are not a lot of 5-man teams, and if there are, they're playing against other 5-man teams. I've only solo'd Dynamic Queue, and I've only queued up against other solo players. Maybe a duo or trio once or twice each. I've never gone against a full or near-full team that's in a raidcall or something like that.

The idea that a full 5-man team will easily carry themselves out of bronze would only work if they're consistently against non-full teams, which I think the system is set up so that they go against other 5-man teams most of the time. The only reason why really high elo players can't solo queue is because the player pool up at the top is less than 1% the size of the pool at the bottom half(bronze-silver IV) of the ranked population, and being in a 5-man team is a huge advantage at that stage because of the small player pool.

creatureplexApr 18, 20161 votes

NTM though if I lose I'll play custom bot match where I'll try playing against that same champion just to kick his ass over and over again and if I have a bad game I'll do that to see if it's just one game or if it's consistent if it's just one game than I"ll play another I think I need to take more advantage of win streaks I tend to take breaks in between each game I think instead if I'm on a win streak I need to ride for as long as I can.

creatureplexApr 18, 20161 votes

Yeah because the way they made ezreal now is he's more of a mage than an actual ad they have to adjust this one way or the other

creatureplexApr 18, 20161 votes

It sucks because I'll have my typical bad days where I miss like every skill shot but get carried and I'll win 2 out of 3 matches then I have my days like yesterday where I had the best game as gangplank went 6-0-7 every barrel was hitting every ult killed someone everything was working but I'll lose 2 out of 3 of my matches that day just wish that that kind of stuff wouldn't happen.