Current state of ap assassin's

Rozair··1 votes·515 views

Ahri Diana Akali and fizz.

The stats they need are on a bunch of different items you need 3 items to feel core while a zed or talon can build a hexdrinker and be core and counter you in the first 10 mins of the game.

I hope the mage update makes ap useful again because a yi with a devourer and a rageblade does more magic damage than an ap mid right now.

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1st Movement1 votes

No he doesn't he does more true dmg not magic

Rozair2 votes

His true damage scales with ad which a yi with rageblade and devourer has very little of

1st Movement1 votes

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His true damage scales with ad which a yi with rageblade and devourer has very little of

It's only a little bit of ap on hit once you get 8 stacks by that time you have done more true/ ad dmg

Ap dmg is calculated with respect to enemy resistance and true dmg is not

legionnaire991 votes

ahri not a ap assassin unless she ahead with diana my combo i can ult them 3 time with the rest of my damage hexdrink never stoped me from killing Akali i do not own or play so i can't tell you about her lol but isn't she more of a tank right now? fizz mopst the time my damage with my missing health damage will kill the kill

Rozair1 votes

OK I main Diana. I'm basically throwing other champions in the to make my point more valid but the reason I'm saying this is because of the item hexdrinker. If they do not have magic resist yet it's basically a one shot but I have found myself climbing the ranks I'm in gold 4. Noone is stupid anymore and hexdrinker is rushed while I'm building a roa. It would be pointless for my to build an abysal because they picked an ad mid and have little magic damage while the passive is nice. I'm noticing that I'm not even close to doing the damage i normaly do. Hexdrinker mitigates a ton of my burst damage. Meanwhile there is not item that I can build to do more damage aside from void staff and even then they are going to get the sheild and I play Diana like a bruiser so I don't get an hourglass so there is no possible item I can build in this situation and I'm screwed while hexdrinker upgrades giving more Mr and armor pen on top of it. Hourglass wouldn't do anything in this situation

legionnaire991 votes

i go diana like item 3285 item 3135 item 3089item 3165 item 3158 (item 3116 i would get a item 3041 if i'm ahead) so maybe i'm just more bursty then your use to

darkmatchwaldo1 votes

Akali is actually in a pretty good place right now but that's only because the koreans are freakin brilliant.

The Deckowner1 votes

all ap assasins have some sort of unfair mechanic. ahri isnt even considered assasin anymore, she is more of a mage atm. diana mid is trash right now due to her weak laning phrase, but diana jg with runic echo? just hit one ability and faceroll rest of the buttons easy kill. lb freaking blink and back oneshot, 0 risk. fizz is just fizzically cancerous with the fucking playful trickster. akali has the worst kit u can get ever possible, every ability is basicially point and click with 3 dashes. altho she is more cancerous with the tank build.

Rozair1 votes

I do think that zed ult is the most unfair mechanic ever aside from playful trickster (fuck fizz) but it's basically a 50% damage amplifier for 2 seconds. Think about it like that.

The Deckowner1 votes

i honestly dont think zed's ult is that bad, it is a very unique ability that doesnt do much dmg on its own(100%ad is like 200dmg with 2 items?) and requires much more skill. there are more toxic shits than this fir example old fiora ult and master yi q.

and fuck fizz this shit is cancerous.

also vlad gives people aids.

Rozair1 votes

Zed ult requires skill? What?!

The Deckowner1 votes

i have seem shitty zed just ult me and walk away, then realized it did no dmg.

the disgusting part of zed is weq doing 70% of ur hp as dmg and it is up every 8 sec or so with no cost.

Billy VoHagen1 votes

Diana is pretty strong with runic echoes I thought (Side note, if you've never tried diana with sated devourer, i recommend it, fun as fuck) Akali is more of a tank right now. I believe ahri has shifted out as an ap assasin to more of a mobile mage. And fizz.... I don't really know, he's good when ahead, has his E, he seems ok right now.

Evenstar1 votes

Diana Mid is completely viable, if not strong. With how Zed is running rampant on mid lane, and how most of the mages in meta now are still squishy, Diana can still shit on them as she wishes. Pre-6 is entirely based on your matchups, obviously, ranged mids will harass and zone you out like no tomorrow, but when Diana hits 6, the tables are turned in her favor.

With melee mids, Diana trades and zones them out efficiently. A Zed who gets all that free harass on you will feel the pain if he decides to trade within your range. That's what Diana is good at and should stay that way, her damage and ratios are balanced, she's a good anti-assassin. Against difficult targets, you'll struggle but every opportunity she gets is an opportunity for her to make big plays.

EminenceVoid1 votes

I believe what would make diana an assassin (she is classified as a fighter atm) would be to give her some sort of escape. Her ult needs a target and isnt that reliable. If that isnt possible, at least let her W be a bigger shield or lower Base CD. I build Diana mid like: AP match up - item 3001item 3285 item 3089 item 3116 item 3158 (last item really depends on the state of the game) AD match up - item 3027 item 3285 item 3116 item 3157 item 3158 (last item really depends on the state of the game)

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