Kindred is the ultimate early game counter jungler

Zuil·Oct 21, 2015·2 votes·2,776 views

Just found this out

I take two camps, I am at mid hp, so he comes by when I go for my other buff (blue or red) and since he will have me marked, I get fked by him and he gets an easy buff.

3 Comments

Naomi CoffeeGoatOct 21, 20153 votes

Kindred with the right champ can have their early game easily abused. Champs like Lee Sin that can engage on them when their abilities are down and dish out "lots" of damage can usually take care of Kindred. Kindred is also prone to dying 2v1 if they blew their abilities trying to kill you in the jungle with how long the cooldowns on them are. Have your laner help you out and ward marked camps. It's pretty easy to deny most of Kindred's potential by keeping a track on all marked scuttles, camps, and not overextending lanes. Though obviously since it's solo q having good synergy with your team is rare.

Used To Main ZedOct 21, 20151 votes

As somebody who plays jungle quite frequently, I would like to agree with you. At this point Kindred is a bit too far on the strong side. The champion concept was great and the execution was great as well.

However, Kindred's passive seems to mark them as a late-game scaling jungler. Given that their damage increases overtime with hunts completed, I believe Kindred deserves a small change to her early game to keep her in check. As of right now, any average Kindred player can counter-jungle and deal with counter-jungling because of her high sustain and kiting ability.

Junglers like Lee Sin and Kha-Zix, junglers who are supposed to rule the early/mid game, have trouble dealing with Kindred. Why does a squishy late-game anti-assassin champion have the ability to 1v1 an early game dueling jungler?

I believe Kindred could be a great champion if they were toned down just a tad in the early stage of the game. When Kindred is played in lane as an adc, her innate sustain makes it nearly impossible to compete in lane as the opposing adc. She makes a support seem almost out-of-style because she can heal so much. Could riot make it so that her innate healing is stronger when targetin neutral monsters and enemy champions and weaker when targeting enemy minions? This small chNge would just keep a check on her as a laning-adc when her intended purpose was a jungler marksman.

Trash MammaIOct 21, 20151 votes

Literally ANYBODY can counter jungle insanely easy right now..Some champs just do it better than others.

The new jungle makes it so your first full clear will have a ton of questionable points on whether you'll survive that camp or not.

Champs like Shaco who can survive with boxes and kill at 2nd buff or evelynn who has the speed and stealth to kill you with you never knowing she was coming and kindred who has her sustain, assuming she can kite the first buff she does, to keep her healthy for a fight.

Other champs can do this exact same thing, you'll just have to play a bit smarter. If yer being early game countered by kindred it's purely you being outplayed