Petition to bring back bonus AP on Lulu's W ally-cast.

Athenes Lulu··19 votes·1,065 views

To replace utility scalings on its movement speed bonus.

Janna gets to have a shield that gives allies AND turrets bonus AD, and there are no one else that gives allies bonus AP anymore. This would make whimsy more than just a dry and boring movement speed buff.

This would not only buff Lulu's duo lane abilities, but also would open up to more non-AD botlane matchups and interesting opportunities. Or even more interesting decision-making plays on how she used Whimsy. It won't hurt solo Lulu too much, either.

For those that don't know, she used to give 20 / 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 bonus AP upon ally casting.

And of course, make it so that she would NOT get the AP bonus upon self-casting, so that her solo lane abilities will not be full-on cheese.

23 Comments

Akali is SO HOT3 votes

gut solo lane lulu as compensation

Athenes Lulu1 votes

yeah im waiting for the day but too bad rito says no

Rivini2 votes

As long as she can't give herself the AP, I don't see a problem with it.

PowerBurger2 votes

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As long as she can't give herself the AP, I don't see a problem with it.

This.

Signed.

ModAttysu The Poro1 votes

That picture reminds me of Young Xehanort being smothered by a young Terra from the Kingdom Hearts universe xD (Your FEK icon)

PowerBurger1 votes

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That picture reminds me of Young Xehanort being smothered by a young Terra from the Kingdom Hearts universe xD (Your FEK icon)

Mine? xP

It's Hanbei and Kanbei, being adorable. But yeah, I guess he does look like Xehanort :P

ModAttysu The Poro1 votes

It's an adorable icon :3

Slamurai Jack2 votes

You want to buff a champion that's already 100% pick or ban at Worlds? I thought we already established that the pros decide whats OP (Morde, Darius).

Athenes Lulu1 votes

The buff have almost little to no effect on her solo laning, especially she is often THE only AP damage dealer in some comps. So I don't know how is that even a buff to her solo lane. Taking utility scaling away is more as a nerf to solo lane, has almost no effect on her supporting either.

The point here is trying to nerf her solo lane, and buff her support.

And I thought people already well went over the fact that soloQ =/= competitive?

Master of EVIL902 votes

You deliberately are rude, annoying and racist on GD, but you feel that a non-support ability be put back on a support champ. May I ask how that is going to help the ADC in lane or during team fights?

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Mordekaiser botlane? Only ADCs? Ahahahhahahaha!

Ezreal Corki It doesn't hurt to have a little AP bonus upon casting certain spells.

So you're saying that supports are always bound to the ADC 24/7? Even though Lulu doesn't necessarily use W on her AD carry?

...What's wrong with having unique spells? What's wrong with opening more ways for players to have more decision-making options?

Master of EVIL901 votes

Well, when use think about the fact that she is a utility mage, with many setup that allies can use... not a buff-based burst mage for you to troll mid lane with.

Plus Riot takes things out for a reason, not just cause they can. And there's the fact that riot terminated Morde bot a patch after the juggernaut patch

Athenes Lulu1 votes

But the thing is they can actually make self-casting not work?

As in, she doesn't get the bonus AP from self-casting, just the movement speed buff?

If Ardent Censer passive doesn't work upon self-casting, then I don't see why not disabling the bonus AP.

Hayaishi21 votes

Why did they even remove that?

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Because they wanted utility scalings in that instead.

Valderis Vandala1 votes

I'm more happy with the speed then a bit of useless AP for other champions I don't lane with. Keeps her ability simpler as well and is good for everybody.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Debatable, but laning isn't everything.

New champs get to be complicated with special combos, so I don't see why not making her point-and-click stuff "complicated".

Valderis Vandala1 votes

LOL, no, my oppinion is not up for debate, its my oppinion.

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