that way you don't somehow forget or get confused. Alright, listening?
Dying in 2 seconds with no counterplay is not fun.
Do you understand? Let's go through it again.
Dying in 2 seconds with no counterplay is not fun.
Doesn't matter if it's an assassin, adc or dumb bruiser stacking lethality.
Dying in 2 seconds with no counterplay is not fun.
Penns2 votesAgreed, revert Fizz, he already had counterplay. Rework adcs, point and click deleting someone 
has no counterplay :)
Jinzo Torrance2 votesMalzahar takes 2.5 seconds, he's fine 👌
CamilleRule341 votes[{quoted}](name=Cinquino Show,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JyzohWEB,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-11-22T15:57:02.755+0000)
Malzahar takes 2.5 seconds, he's fine 👌
If you're alone with a malazhar and he can delete you, you deserve to die
Xavanic2 votesBy your logic, all the champs need to have their dmg nerfed to oblivion, which will plummet us into the worst tank meta ever
Anatera1 votesBy your logic, all the champs need to have their dmg nerfed to oblivion, which will plummet us into the worst tank meta ever
Don't be such a sensationalist. I never said anything about tanks. I said assassins, adcs and bruisers.
Xavanic2 votesDon't be such a sensationalist. I never said anything about tanks. I said assassins, adcs and bruisers.
yeah, but once you take damage away from assassins, adcs and bruisers, they will just be built tank aswell, while i do agree some need nerfs, not everyone needs to lose their damage, like, hell, look at leblanc, shes struggling to do anything now a days
Ralanr2 votesHow would that plummet us into a tank meta? If everyone has lower damage, the people are going to build damage first to compensate, leading to s snowball meta.
A tank meta arises when everyone can function fine without needing to build damage at all. Like tank assassins.
Xavanic1 votesHow would that plummet us into a tank meta? If everyone has lower damage, the people are going to build damage first to compensate, leading to s snowball meta.
A tank meta arises when everyone can function fine without needing to build damage at all. Like tank assassins.
Look at it this way, people follow and mimic what the pros do, the pros want the most effective builds, if IE gives say 50 ad after they nerfed back damage, while thornmail gives 75 armor, they arent gonna look at it like, oh, well im the carry, i need damage, their going to look at it like, IE has less gold efficiency as none of my abilites scale very well with it, BUT, i can be more useful and live longer if i have thornmail (or any other armor item), and then what will happen is those who try to follow the pros to a T will emulate their full tank jinx, or full tank zed and progressively it will become their meta builds, so the meta sheep will follow and eventually people might not be buying damage at all, because its not gold efficent, defense and damage always need to be balanced out so one isnt overwhelming the other (remember the tank assassin meta) because what will happen is riot will have to nerf the base damages on these champs and buff their ratios while also nerfing armor to get these champs back into their intended build paths, and once they do that, we will have another post like this complain from these people who take no consideration into a defensive item, that their dying too fast
A tank meta arises when defensive items are just overall more efficent, as tank is a safer build path then damage, not just when everyone can function (even after all the nerfs, i still see tank ekko quite often, hell im seeing tank assassins all over the place rn)
Edit: FYI, after titanic was added, everyone already can function without damage, all they need is incentive not to build it
Anatera1 votesYou're being extremist again. There's clearly a middle ground that can be achieved. It's not just one side of the spectrum or the other.
AdmiralAthlon2 votesScaling naturally hits squishy champs hardest. I get killed as lux by a mediocre (aka not fed) Rengar midgame in 0.2 seconds with new runesystem. I agree with Anatera, squishy are on the losing side of the new runesystem. Simply feel-based stance ofc..but then again not automatically wrong.
Its All Skillzz1 votestrying to kill a maokai for 30 seconds is not fun. esp when its 1 vs 5.
Alkis91 votes"no counterplay" I will go ahead and asume that you are refering to zoe. There is an item called qss that totaly negates her e. There is also a summoner spell called cleanse that had the same effect, for mages there's another item called zhonyas (stopwatch works as well). Do i need to say anything else?
Anatera1 votesI'm not referring to Zoe, but kudos on trying to read my mind?
Sasogwa1 votesIt's fine if you can counterbuild it and it's only burst damage with really high CD and makes the burst guy vulnerable after using it. It's NOT FINE if it's your average DPS and you have easily tons of escape.
HalcyonDweller1 votesI agree with your sentiment, dying in less than 2 seconds with little counterplay is not fun.
However, treating somebody (Rioters in this case) like they are stupid is the worst possible way to try to get them to listen to you.
Anatera1 votesThey had months to test this. So given that, yes, I think it was stupid of them to release the runes in this state. Riot is not some baby's first indie developer. They're a massive company with the resources and manpower to back it up. They should not need to be handheld over every tiny little minuscule detail that this game needs changed. Nor should they release something that is so obviously the antithesis of fun and still be taking this long to fix the most glaring issues.
HalcyonDweller1 votesAgain I agree with your sentiment, Riot is a professional company and they should have done better before this point.
And again, there is a difference between pointlessly insulting others and 'not coddling' them.
You are being an ass, you should stop that.