Can we remove some of Jins safety?

fuffychan··2 votes·399 views

Hes already safe enough by having super long range skills to attack with, but then anyone who gets close has to navigate hidden slow traps, deal with his speed boosts on every shot, and if you somehow catch up to him you get snared.

Why does one ADC who already does higher damage than most have so many tools to keep himself safe?

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Ralanr3 votes

Idk, Caitlyn seems to have a similar problem.

fuffychan1 votes

Its called balance. Jin does triple the damage of Caitlyn, he shouldnt have even more safety as well.

Is that all you do is try to play devils advocate on everyones posts?

MissingKayo3 votes

And Caitlyn also attacks far faster than he does in return. Jhin's individual shots do more because he has less than 1.0 AS at level 18 and only has four shots and a mandatory 2.5 second reload which cannot be reduced.

Stop shitposting.

Ralanr1 votes

Better than down voting everyone who disagrees with you at the drop of a hate.

I would argue it's harder to catch a good Caitlyn than it is a good Jhin.

fuffychan1 votes

Caitlyn only has visible traps and a net. No speed boosts.

Ralanr2 votes

Visible traps with a quick arming time and decent range to hit people coming at her, and the net slows down her opponent enough while getting a better distance and procing headshot.

Jhin's traps are honestly a lot more telegraphed and are also triggered by minions. So either he puts them in obvious places or he uses them for waveclear (which he doesn't do).

Jhin also only gets a speed boost when he crits last I checked, and only gets an automatic crit on his fourth shot.

Compared to other and more mobile marksmen he doesn't have that many tools for escape or has to use them all to escape. Lucian and Vayne both have their dashes to keep away (and Vayne has her ult if she really needs it). MF has a speed boost and an AoE slow. Ezreal has that blink. Ashe has slows. Corki has a dash.

Sure Jhin has some more escape tools than other marksmen, but it's all pretty conditional and requires his enemies to trigger stuff. Kinda like Caitlyn.

GankedByWindows2 votes

There is no way Jhin does triple Caitlyn's damage unless she isn't using headshot at all, or one of them is massively ahead/behind. He doesn't really have the safety you claim he does either. He has conditional movespeed, traps that MUST be pre-planned (they have an arm time) and can't effectively be used reactively, and his snare roots himself in place while he attempts it and is also conditional. Contrary to your statement, if someone gets on him he is dead and gone. If he tries to snare you while you're already on him it doesn't matter. He stuns himself while doing that giving you time to kill him AND you can still dodge it.

cinomenapplebae2 votes

Stun/slow him and then tell team to kill him or have an assassin focus him down in fights

fuffychan1 votes

Thanks captain obvious. Im talking about compared to other ADCs he has a f---ton of ways to stay safe that other ADCs dont.

cinomenapplebae1 votes

Kalista VayneEzrealLucianKindred

fuffychan1 votes

4 of those have no speed boost and the one that does requires him to be in auto range. 3 of those have no hard CC and one is single target and short range and the other requires a specific teammate and has an ult cd. 4 of those are very short ranged.

All they have are very short range dashes, most of which require them to be in attack range of a target.

MissingKayo1 votes

Kalista can dash with Q. And you're not going to catch Kalista by yourself as a solo ADC. Vayne can dash whenever she wants without any restriction and has a knockback into a potential stun. Ezreal can blink whenever he wants without any restriction and usually gets Iceborn for perma slow on Q. Lucian can dash whenever he wants without any restriction. Kindred can dash whenever they want without any restriction and also has a slow.

So you are almost completely wrong on every single thing you said. Stop shitposting, thanks.

Vayne has a speed boost on her passive as well as her ultimate while in 2000 range of an enemy champion she is moving towards. Lucian has a speed boost if he procs W's autoattack.

This is the one point you are correct about. Range doesn't matter when you get instantly knocked back a long distance and potentially stunned. Kalista almost always has her teammate and would stay at long range kiting anyways.

Sort of I guess? Not really? Have you ever bothered looking up AA ranges?

And you are completely wrong on the last point altogether.

MissingKayo1 votes

Can you stop crying and learn to play? Or just stop shitposting altogether, thanks.

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