Wow that axe to redemption

Shadow Hazard·Jan 12, 2017·1 votes·718 views

Not saying it wasn't needed but still wow. But since there is some work being done into support itemization, any looks into zeke's?

11 Comments

AbyssphereJan 12, 20174 votes

It's really not that bad. You're not getting the item at least before level 10 and at that point the heal is only 40 lower than it is on live. The HP nerf/MP5 buff is designed to focus it more on enchanters, also.

BlueBilberryJan 12, 20171 votes

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It's really not that bad. You're not getting the item at least before level 10 and at that point the heal is only 40 lower than it is on live. The HP nerf/MP5 buff is designed to focus it more on enchanters, also.

Not entirely sure that this point that it is actually a small step. It does seem to make carrying redemption a little less palatable for supports.

Shadow HazardJan 12, 20171 votes

Oh i am aware that the math behind it puts it at the same at max level, but how many supports will be leveling that fast.

AbyssphereJan 13, 20171 votes

The active heal actually scales with the target's level, so it's OK if the support is underlevelled as long as everyone else is levelling quickly.

CalabokJan 12, 20172 votes

the people that think it's too nerfed are the people that over abuse its power.

Ben SharpioJan 12, 20171 votes

jesus christ that nerf is too much. i hope they don't go through with it... Wtf man LOL

VorpalKitsuneJan 12, 20171 votes

its not as bad as it seems, at lvl 8 it is only 40 lower than the previous amount

Packun FlowerJan 12, 20171 votes

Just saw the notes on it now.

Yeah its pretty much useless if they go through with it. I will stop building it and start building banner again if they do.

Heaven forbid supports have an impact on team fights eh Riot?

AstôlfoJan 12, 20173 votes

That's a fallacious statement.

No one said supports can't be good. But it was obvious as day that it was ridiculously overpowered. That's not healthy either.

BlueBilberryJan 12, 20171 votes

It's just that a bunch of people who didn't want opposing players, namely enemy supports, to be relevant. All the complaints about Redemption and other support items, not to mention Sona's and Soraka's healing seem to have this constant argument: "How dare you have someone who undoes my damage and hurts my kill-rate?" I just wish that people would realize that there needs to be that 5th role in the game - and realize that there has to be, like in other games, someone who is working to counter your work.