They should bring back the old ap version (sceptre) and still keep the new tank version (mask) while giving the aura a name so they cant stack with each other.
I know nobody really cares but i would really like to see ap scepte come back tbh..
MrHaZeYo9 votesI miss it too lol.
Bring DFG back too
mew287 votesRIP DFG 
2010 to 2014
Who Fed Ru1 votesty dfg
Häxel5 votestbh it should not come back. Defensive mr item, maybe with ap? Mercurys/Banshees/athenes (yea athenes is mostly a support item). Increased damage? Sorcerys/Morellmonicon/Liandrys Tornment/Void Stuff. An item should not have all 3 of these: Ad/Ap, Armor/Mr and an offensive passive. otherwise it just leads to an unehalthy game where when it is strong whoever rushs both has the damageadvantage by far and the defensive advantage. Like Banshees, Zhonyas, Ga, Maw, Mercurial all just have the ratiomix but a defensive passive/active. Only witsend is an aggresive dfensive itemmix but that just gives attackspeed and no ad and with that, the buildpath, the magic onhit and magicresist steal most champs don't go realy go this item.
YuGiHo1 votesthe mr was just a bonus. this item with 
and old 
was core build on ap assassins that had to get up close and personal with the targets they were trying to kill. 
and 
are way too defensive item unless u are behind or are vs an ap burst champ . abyssal sceptre felt like an actual ap assassin item, something we currently dont have in game and many people dont think can be done.
Häxel1 votesOld abyssal had once 30mr shred, which got changed to 40 and 20 over the years, than to 10-25 over levels till it got changed completly from flat reduction to 10% increased MAGIC damage.
If you the mr on Abyssal was just a nice bonus, why are you not fine with 
and 
? Even the build up items give the whished effect, the finished items give a "nice bonus" too. 
gives 15 magicpen, gives max 10% increased damage at 5s, 2% per second. Note that it jsut says damage, so even physical and truedamage is increased which old abyssal couldn't do. Baiscly with both items you have both cases, old scepter passive which was especialy good vs sqisyhs and the passive that stayed on mask now.
Also + + is cheaper and not especialy better vs magic damage cause beside the botos both items just give ehalth, which is equaly good vs both damage types basicly. Yes, haunting guise with the removal of the flatpen is less attractive now but it still gives penetration and 2-5s in combat should be in, even sometimes more. Also like the reworked scepter good vs even tankier targets.
The nice boni the items give is the now better tankshred of liandrys if the enemy is under 50% health as before and perma grivious wounds, even for manaless champions like katarina and akali. Old morellos gave gv for 8s if the enemy was under 35% health, new gives it for 3s, no matter what. Best is Liandrys passive increases this time basicly for 3 additional seconds.
Yes katarina gets gw for 3s on her ult too but now she can sue it with passive, q, e, items like gunblade or runes.
What can be better for an assassin as gw? Just lb and ahri were kidna good with old morellos as a manaitem and even they skipped it sometimes cause they were made to gunblade champions. Now directly bond to magicpen and not having mana every assassin can use it IF they jsut want to increase their damage. after all you said, the mr was JUST a nice bonus and not cause assassins needed extra tankyness ;). A fizz or ekko can directly go on an adc and with the gw even weaken the protection an adc gets threw the whole lifestealrunes, items and spells/items of the support, so assassination has a higher succesrate. Also the mr mostly didn't even help vs the adc beside maybe the statiksproc, but the health of Morellos and Haunting Guise/Liandrys works fine vs the adcs autos.
Last but not least i want to add that 
got also implemented now as a direct dfg replacement (which ludens was intended to be but it also was a pokeitem giving pokechampions even movementspeed. now ludens is fine as a manaitem). Spellbinder gives ap and ms and the active increases both good too for once and assassins should be ok to go in and out once, so the movemetspeed and ap increase for a short time should be realy ok for them (and is better balanced as clicking with dfg just on 1 champion. Also kata increases her damage to everyone basicly and not just to 1 target).
Zane Zephyr3 votesIt was an okay item but I don't really like the thought of having something that gives you damage, tankiness and gives the squishy deleters even more power
I don't feel like dealing with an akali or kat using that every game and smashing every lane
Danni Chimes2 votesBring back the old Sceptre and allow Force of Nature to come back.
Boom!
M00ndanc32 votesBuy a Banshee, since when they made the change all they really did was swap base stats and changed a name, later changed the build but at the time only that. also there currently nerfing the masks radius do to it being to good a defensive item on midrange mages which removing it as an item for them was the whole point of the stat swap. now with its radius only being about the size of a sunfire its only amazing on close range ap or magic damage tanks.
SierraTangoDelta2 votesI don't understand why Abyssal Helm gets nerfed so quickly, but ADC items are still all obscenely overpowered and undercosted.
XxDRAGONsAK47xX1 votesI used to build it on Fizz as a core item
Pixie Storm1 votesI miss it a lot. sigh. Used to play 
all the time.
Catastrop1 votesWas the core first buy in my Kat builds, god I miss that thing, + sceptre was hilarious fun.
DeusVult1 votesThey won't bring it back, having an item with AP and MR, plus an offensive passive makes it a must buy for most mid range burst mages, especially if they are going against another mage.
Wild Geese1 votesThis item is now better but only for
