Thornmail needs to deal like double the damage it does now

Moonfall Saber·Sep 23, 2017·5 votes·506 views

is supposed to counter adcs. Instead its just a waste of gold.

13 Comments

jwebb0113Sep 23, 20172 votes

its not meant to be a damage item

it reduces attack speed from the person that hits you. and gives you armor reducing the physical damage and applies grievous wounds and gives a lil bit of hp.

it is fine

JbelsSep 23, 20171 votes

You know what else is supposed to counter Attack Speed Stackers? item 3110 LOL?

NhifuSep 23, 20171 votes

Frozen Heart sucks, no HP in a tank item.

KhristophorosSep 23, 20171 votes

Thornmail is a 1v1 item mostly for melee champs to use against other melee champs and ADCs. Tanks should only get it if they are capable of being a threat in 1v1 and forced by circumstances to 1v1 a champ that autoattacks a lot. The mechanics of the item aren't useful in other situations unless it's overtuned.

NhifuSep 23, 20171 votes

Thornmail is pretty much that last "6th" item you buy tbh.

Can't really rush it or build it secondary since you're better off with the other items in the game

AhrisSep 23, 20171 votes

And reduce the cost efficiency of MR items so that Mages can be the primary tank killers.

NhifuSep 23, 20171 votes

Or just buff Liandries again. Even one percent would be nice lol

Asayake 5150glowSep 24, 20171 votes

Doubledamage only against ranked, it fucks melees up enough as it is.

AdderTudeOct 12, 20171 votes

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Doubledamage only against ranked, it fucks melees up enough as it is.

Yasuo is the exception.

Asayake 5150glowOct 14, 20171 votes

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Yasuo is the exception.

Well any crit building AD is, but others not so much.

AdderTudeOct 31, 20171 votes

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Well any crit building AD is, but others not so much.

I doubt it. Thornmail is meant to reflect damage back to the attacker, but since Yasuo doesn't seem to take any regardless of the damage he deals, then the item is useless overall. The item feels way too weak and isn't terribly viable since it doesn't appear to deal the damage it's supposed to dish out on basic attacks. If, say, Yasuo deals 300 damage, then Thornmail is meant to deal 90 of it back, which isn't actually dealt back to the attacker at all since Thornmail's damage is affected by armor, so Yasuo instead takes a rough estimate of 60% of the 30% reflected damage on average. The damage that Thornmail deals back should be true damage to begin with in order to effectively deal with basic attackers more effectively. Right now, it's a junk item.