I dont even understand why we low ELO players (Bronze-Gold) complain about Lee

Eedat··4 votes·541 views

He is straight up garbage at our ELOs. I honestly dont even care if he gets a few kills early because I know he's going to be useless when we start grouping. The number of times I have seen a Lee Sin actually hard carry a game is almost zero compared to him doing nothing early and being useless the rest of the game.

Yet we then see the Lee Sin QQ circlejerk in full force with Silver players complaining about how broken he is. Even in Diamond he's floating around a 49% winrate. Then we demand more nerfs when he doesnt even need them.

I really dont understand it. "Something something playrate something something" honestly who cares? Playrate isn't a indicator of how strong a champion is by itself. Maybe people just play him because he's fun? Look a Lucian. Even when he was trash-tier with a 47% winrate he still had a 15% pick rate. Because he's fun. NOT because he was OP.

People really need to hop off the bandwagon. It's pretty ridiculous at this point. Just because that smurf dominated you that one time doesn't mean Lee is broken. Let's be real. That player was going to shit on you no matter what champ he picked.

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ChargeItDownMid2 votes

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Eedat1 votes

Thats literally just speculation. Before Champion.gg reset it, Lee Sin had a 49.5% win rate in the 125+ games experience category. Therefore, even the most experienced Lee players weren't cracking 50%

dominusx1 votes

i'd nerf lee more atm. The champ isnt as hard people make it out to be. Lee used to be hard because he needed more than a Q R Q to kill people atm he only needs a simple combo to kill people and that's because of the stupid dmg in the game atm. Only reason he fell outta favor is because Rengar/Kha are stronger at snowballing and require less strategical movement to be usefull outside early game.Now with both of them beeing nerfed he will rise up together with Elise/Graves/Reksai.

edit: i still pretty much instadodge when i have lee on my team in d3 cause people alwyas throw with this monkey champ.

Eedat1 votes

And thats in D3. Imagine how garbage he is in Silver and Bronze. I cringe when my team picks Lee in Gold

Dabrick011 votes

Bandwagon my ass. You haven't experienced nothing until you see the baseless Yasuo one.

Lee is the kind of JG that should want to get everyone ahead by making many early ganks and letting them have kills.

At lower elo's communication is almost non-existent. When you say, "Hey! The Lee seems to be getting a little too powerful. Let's try to focus him!", everyone plays the circle jerk blame game and Lee picks them off. He is frustrating because lower elo players can't coordinate. Same thing with Yasuo.

Eedat1 votes

By "he is frustrating because lower elo players can't coordinate" do you actually mean "he suicides into our whole team consistently for free"? Because thats what ends up happening

Dabrick011 votes

Nope! The Lee ends up getting his team a few kills early, and since the entire enemy team is garbage, they can't regain control of the game and it snowballs.

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