Can you stop with your AD favoritism and make armor and MR equal?

HP Crookshanks··10 votes·1,474 views

With item 3025 item 3143 item 3047 item 3075 item 3110 item 3742 I can't even survive for 3 seconds against full AD teams but building MR against full AP teams is almost a free win and I can't be the only one who knows that.

And why do melee champions get +10 MR but not armor in ARAM? Even with the mage nerfs.

19 Comments

FederationFurry8 votes

Upvoted... I hate Riot's obvious bias to hyperactive AD mains

Who Fed Ru7 votes

item 3135?

Your argument doesn't even make sense lmao.

You can stack armor easy, you can't stack mr as good as armor, and void gives 70AP and 40%pen and is cheaper than LDR which only gives 45AD + 35%pen. Mages even have flat pen on their boots.

So yeah, please actually make it equal, so unfair much wow

HP Crookshanks7 votes

item 3035? item 3071? item 3124? Conqueror? Camille Darius Fiora etc.'s free armor pen/true damage? Play a single game with full AP team and see how you can't even tickle the tanks.

Who Fed Ru5 votes

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item 3035? item 3071? item 3124? Conqueror? Camille Darius Fiora etc.'s free armor pen/true damage? Play a single game with full AP team and see how you can't even tickle the tanks.

item 3035 and item 3124 aren't stackable, item 3071 is expensive af and needs time to stack, and even when you have LD and a full stacked BC it is only ~10% more pen than item 3135 which is cheap af. And the champs who have conqueror and true damage in their kits are champs that are meant to fight tanks in the side lane, so they need it. When Darius Fiora etc. can't win extended fights in their side lane against tanks in mid game and beyond they would be hardcore shit.

Mages don't fight tanks in side lanes or 1v1 tanks, and 40% pen is more than enough for what they need to do, especially because MR is hard to stack. There are only a few tanks who synergize with MR items as well as with Armor items.

On top of that comes the fact that mages aren't even supposed to fight tanks apart from a few exceptions like Cassiopeia, while there are AD Classes that are supposed to do exactly that, and when you have a full AP team, the reason why you lose might more be because you have no DPS nor can't push any towers.

boricCentaur17 votes

But there is more magic penetration in the game while also having less mr in the game so if anything it's the opposite. Also yi full build will take like 5 seconds to actually kill a tank late game. Like a tank vs full ap is much harder to deal with that is a fact.

So maybe stop being biased since if anything the favoritism is more ap then ad.

Vanëssa7 votes

Are you kidding? Buying item 3191 feels like i didnt get any deffebsive item while if someone takesitem 3155 i need 3 combos instead of one to kill someone.

Who Fed Ru5 votes

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Are you kidding? Buying item 3191 feels like i didnt get any deffebsive item while if someone takesitem 3155 i need 3 combos instead of one to kill someone.

play any lethality champ lmao.

your damage gets halfed if the enemy just buys 2 cloth armor

HP Crookshanks7 votes

You're right but that's what I meant [sg-lux-2]

D357R0Y3R6 votes

a tank can have like 400 armor or 300 with a real tank build

a tank cannot have above 200 mr with a real tank build

HP Crookshanks7 votes

A tank with item 3001 item 3194 item 3190 item 3111 item 3065 item 3512 has 358.4 MR at level 18

D357R0Y3R6 votes

ask yourself who's going to build this and accept to die in 2 seconds against an adc

really ask yourself that so you can correct this thread later

HP Crookshanks7 votes

Ask yourself if building armor will make any difference also teams can be full AP.

D357R0Y3R6 votes

if your team is 0 ap without an adc you should be blaming yourself LOL

this thread is hilarious

Pandemic Punch5 votes

The basis of this specific argument is just wrong. Tanks are supposed to do better against AP champions and get countered by ADC's.

Mage > ADC Tank > Mage ADC > Tank

HP Crookshanks7 votes

Tanks also supposed to counter assassins (Zed Talon Khazix Rengar etc.) but they don't because of the uselessness of armor.

lucas295 votes

You forgot that Mage, Tank, Adc, Assassins, ect > All support (Except lux suport)

Darkdemon6535 votes

The issue isn't the defensive items. The issue is how auto-attackers scale compared to mages.

ZephyrDrake2 votes

So what you are saying is that MR should be nerfed? Also if you are building those items then is super late game and will die fast against most champions regardless.

I am willing to bet that I can go to your match history and won't find a single game where you had those items built.

HP Crookshanks8 votes

Since full AD comps are common, you can often see 6 armor items built by tanks who reached late game but it's not a surprise that you didn't even notice them.

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