"If Ninja Tabi is getting nerfed, than why is LW, Black Cleaver, Lethality getting fine?"

ModAcademy Kayn··7 votes·1,374 views

Well, I don't know, maybe it's because LW, Black Cleaver, and Lethality aren't powerful on their own. Rushing a LW first thing isn't going to do anything for you. Black Cleaver is already a first buy, and usually the only offense Juggs build, but they stack defense after. Lethality is meant to be built first, and then stacked. You need multiple AD items for LW to be effective and you need multiple Lethality items for you to take out a large portion of Flat armor.

Ninja Tabi's don't have any build up. They're simple "Buy and be efficient". Ninja Tabi's instantly take out 30 Lethality, and 12% of any Auto attackers damage, without any actual effort being put into that being made effective. The effect isn't small and built up through buying more Armor, you become instantly harder to kill just for 1,100 with no actual effort being put into that. You NEED more Lethality for Lethality to be good, you NEED more AD for LW to be worth a buy.

NO, Tabi's being too good does not excuse the current state of Armor Pen in the game, but they can not be compared. Tabi's is a one buy wonder that gives a lot for its price. The other items listed require more than just a single item to be considered worth the buy, save Black Cleaver, but that's a Core item for a reason.

If you watch the Pro-games where they're all building Tabi's, it's more than just because Lethality. They're building it to counter AD as a whole, not just the specific Lethality users.

9 Comments

Taliyahc5 votes

Problem is tabi is being built to counter what you're talking about.

You're saying you are fine with all the percent armor penetration items now floating around in league allowing TANKS to be shredded.

But a percent ad damage reduction? HOLY MOTHER OF GOD THIS SHOULD NOT EXIST LCS IS BUILDING IT TOO OFTEN RIOT NEEDS TO NERF IT.

Pros are building tabi because of all this bull shit and it's people like you who are pointing the finger at the end results rather then the factors causing the result.

ModAcademy Kayn4 votes

NO, Tabi's being too good does not excuse the current state of Armor Pen in the game, but they can not be compared.

ViiLLAiN2 votes

ninja tabi is pretty op always has been...

Chibi Bronzlife1 votes

The problem of Ninja Tabi wasn't as visible before the lethality issue arose.

Edge of Daybreak1 votes

THANK YOU.

Zetto1 votes

item 3047 have always been stupidly powerful. In top lane this is both the easiest way to itemize against an AA champion, as well as the easiest way to snowball against AA champions. It was always a very strong item to build, both when ahead, and behind.

Hexs Fortune1 votes

item 3047 getting nerfed where? They said they were evaluating it. They are meant to be good in an AD meta. Back in the day everyone grabbed item 3111 for general anti cc use. Tabi means you don't have that

Dr Endeavor1 votes

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item 3047 getting nerfed where? They said they were evaluating it. They are meant to be good in an AD meta. Back in the day everyone grabbed item 3111 for general anti cc use. Tabi means you don't have that

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Rebonack1 votes

Mercs would be more valuable if Riot didn't keep nerfing CC durations.

Items like Tabi and Mercs are typically strong or weak depending on the environment they're in. Tabi are being spammed because of the situation with armor pen at the moment. When the enemy team has three to five physical damage sources that are all buying flat armor pen you would have to be an idiot not to buy Tabi.

Honestly, I'm glad that players are finally starting to realize that defensive boots are WAY more powerful than an extra smidgen of attack speed or magic pen. If this debacle encourages Riot to totally overhaul boots (or finally remove the stupid things) I would be okay with that outcome.

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