Elise as a jungler

TheLastBaron88··1 votes·262 views

So I'm a big fan of Elise, thematically and as a general concept. So a couple of things bugging me here (pun intended):

  1. She only works as a jungler.

  2. She isn't a competitive pick as a jungler.

  3. her AP ratios are so dirt that she is built and played as a Bruiser/Tank. Wasn't she supposed to be a Mage/Assassin to begin with?

Specifically that second point. When a champion can only be played a single way in a single role, they should at least be able to perform in that role, right? Technically you can still play Elise, and she will still work, but there doesn't seem to be even a single reason to pick her over the other choices other than to give yourself a challenge.

One small fix I can think of would be to change the damage scaling on Neurotoxin. Instead of being % current health, make it a flat amount with good scaling that gets bonus damage based on how much current hp the enemy has, kind of like the opposite of Nidalee's Takedown. As a poking tool meant to put enemies into low enough health to burst them, you could even increase the mana cost and cooldown if you had to. That way she could actually be played in an assassin role. When built squishy, she is forced to be very careful in her positioning, and her Q has a pretty short range.

As for playing her in lane, I don't think it will ever be a good idea unless something is done to make her Volatile Spiderling a good harass skill, since all it does atm is aggro onto the creep wave and explode.

3 Comments

Aww Kat2 votes

I recently got Elise from a Mystery Gift and played her in jungle right away. So much fun. Unfortunately i got harassed when i didn't build a cinder hulk.

TheLastBaron881 votes

She is a fun champ, right? Yeah exactly, I hate that she's pigeonholed into building tanky. She doesn't really have enough cc in her kit to be a good tank for her team, doesn't really have defensive steroids, and only seems to have a lot of damage if you are stupid far ahead and have levels on your enemy. I like for my mage/assassins to hurt when you build damage on them.

I guess I just actually miss the good old Season 3 days when she was the terror of the jungle, and the bane of top laners.

Earthpine1 votes

I've actually played Elise mid and I've found it a lot of fun if you know how to play her in lane. The only annoying thing is how slow her human aa is. But I would like her a bit buffed on the AP side since I believe she is an assassin, not a tank.

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