why can zed and fiora who get shutdown by qss get special attention and not warwick malz who are equally affected by it? seems only fair. even if its just 200 damage. its better then outright getting nothing out of it.
Zerolera6 votesYou already get something out of it - forcing people to buy an item just because they have to build around your specific champion.
Hethalean3 votesWell, the change was so they can have champions who kit isn't completely negated by a click of a button. If you're bringing WW and/or Malzahar, you're probably bringing them along for that ultimate which is then negated by the click of a button. Changes That being said. Malzahar's ult is changing so even if it is QSS'd early, you still have the pool for damage. Your CC is just negated.
LilxPaprika1 votesOh you're right I forgot they are not making it work with exhaust ignite. the thing is qss in its current form is worth in every game. In fact its become the defacto must have item.
You know the next change makes sense by not allowing it to remove exhaust or ignite.
The Bíg Ticket1 votesExcept QSS is in every standard build for any high elo adc.
ValyrianBlade2 votesI think it's moreso that the change to Zed and Fiora is about balancing them better.
The change on its own is terrible. ADCs NEED a counter to Zed's ultimate.
The problem Riot is seeing, at least I think, is that while Zed feels insanely strong, his power drops off too hard as soon as QSS is obtained because his ultimate is ONLY useful against a squishy target. So they think he's balanced, but it isn't healthy. They want to make it that he can still get a good combo off on his intended target, so that they can nerf him elsewhere.
On WW/Malz, they can be equally effective suppressing a tank. The whole team won't build QSS. Stopping a tank from CC'ing your team or diving on your back line or peeling for his back line is pretty effective too. E.g. Malz can suppress the enemy Maokai at the start of the fight so his allied Wukong can dive the enemy ADC more easily. As a side note - both Malz and WW are already countered by the tank being able to CC them to break the suppression, so suppressing the tank actually SHOULD be the optimal strategy. It will just take a different mindset, you're no longer playing these champions to cheese a squishy, you're doing it for insane teamfight power with coordinated players.
Suppression is also already stronger than most CC because Mikhael's can't work on it. So each player needs to build QSS, but only 1 or 2 really will. As opposed to say, the support building Mikhael's to counter a Lissandra ultimate.
Colgate Gator1 votesUlt the other targets who don't have QSS.
EndlessSorcerer1 votesYou should probably check the PBE before complaining.
They are already removing its ability to remove the ultimates of Zed, Fiora and Trundle (among other debuffs).
Even if they weren't changing it, your suggestion is still horrible.
CIickTheLantern1 votesWithout QSS an adc is free gold to a zed/fiora. It is the assassin's job to know when to go in when it is down.