Why do tanks have such extreme mobility?

fuffychan·Feb 1, 2017·3 votes·1,666 views

one of the longest range stuns in the game

perma 500 ms

perma 500 ms AND cc near immunity

jump that far outranges every adc escape

because a fat man dashing over more walls then was funny so devs left it in?

NO EXPLANATION NECESSARY

has ult but for his entire team lmfao

better incombat mobility then

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"hey guys lets give this tree alpha strike!" "but make it snare too!" "great idea trololol"

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see Sonic

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lol

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I honestly cant even believe this guy was allowed into the game.

omg making this thread made me realize its even far more ridiculous than I previously thought LOL

inb4 the WoW players come in here to correct me "theyre not 'tanks' theyre 'wardens'" or w/e shut up nobody cares

46 Comments

Critmaster GarenFeb 1, 20176 votes

a good chunk of those arent even tanks nor mobile.

and yes. its because theyre supposed to be the frontline of their teams and initiate fights.

Best Kog NAFeb 1, 20175 votes

For most of these it might be because they're supposed to be either the front line or the engage for their teams

fuffychanFeb 1, 20172 votes

Tanks like Shen or Renekton are fine and fair to both play as and play against. Those should be the standard.

Critmaster GarenFeb 1, 201710 votes

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Tanks like or are fine and fair to both play as and play against. Those should be the standard.

renekton isnt a tank. hes a dive fighter.

BlitzidiousFeb 1, 20172 votes

Yeah, he/she (Fuffychan) listed so many different classes, that I just can't believe that this isn't some sort of bait.

fuffychanFeb 1, 20172 votes

Does it die in 1 combo from a fed Syndra ? No.

Then its a tank.

EndlessSorcererFeb 1, 20172 votes

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Does it die in 1 combo from a fed ?

Then its a tank.

Then I suppose almost every mage, marksman, assassin and fighter who builds pure damage counts as a tank by your definition.

Shocker.

fuffychanFeb 1, 20171 votes

I forgot to type the word "no." Thanks.

Meep ManFeb 1, 20171 votes

Anyone with item 3102 and/or item 3156 is now a Tank

Meep ManFeb 1, 20173 votes

Because they need it to initiate. Also PPPFFFT DR.MUNDO AND BLITZCRANK ARE SUPER MOBILE!? Dude, that is NOT mobility. That is long duration movement speed increase. Dr. Mundo's isn't even extremely large, being a 15-35% increase. Blitzcrank's SLOWS him afterwards and decays over the duration as well.

Also: Kled Shyvana Udyr Volibear Warwick These aren't Tanks, but a mixture of Skirmishers, Divers, and Juggernauts, all just durable Fighters or Slayers. Most Tanks have more crowd control than them and less sustained damage. Trundle could be argued as well, but he is more used as a Tank than anything. Anyways, these aren't Tanks so shouldn't be balanced and labeled as such. It would be like calling Sona a Mage instead of a Support.

fuffychanFeb 1, 20171 votes

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Skirmishers, Divers, and Jug-

As soon as I saw this crap, downvoted.

Meep ManFeb 1, 20172 votes

If you are counting every single Skirmisher, Diver, Juggernaut, Vanguard, and Warden as a Tank, then quite literally 50% of the champion pool is a Tank.

Aatrox Alistar Amumu Blitzcrank Braum Camille Chogath Darius Diana DrMundo Ekko Elise Evelynn Fiora Galio Garen Gnar Gragas Hecarim Illaoi Irelia JarvanIV Jax Jayce Kayle Kled LeeSin Leona Malphite Maokai MasterYi Mordekaiser Nasus Nautilus Nocturne Nunu Olaf Pantheon Poppy Rammus RekSai Renekton Riven Sejuani Shen Shyvana Singed Sion Skarner TahmKench Taric Trundle Tryndamere Udyr Volibear Warwick MonkeyKing XinZhao Yasuo Yorick Zac

These are all Tanks according to you (at least). Some of them are, a decent bit of them aren't.

fuffychanFeb 1, 20171 votes

Actually, thats an excellent list. Im not going to bother finding out who is missing, but on your list I would only take off Evelynn Fiora Diana Aatrox Kayle Jayce Riven MasterYi XinZhao Tryndamere essentially is a tank

RogueWillFeb 1, 20172 votes

You forgot the Leona being more mobile than LeeSin . She has a skillshot dash, that is all her mobility. She is the contrary of mobility, she sticks to you by making you go slower/not able to move not by moving around

Meep ManFeb 1, 20171 votes

I didn't want to have to explain this post's every single specific mistake due to the nature of it.

TehNACHOFeb 1, 20172 votes

Hyperboles are op.

Please tell me this is sarcasm.

IncarcerationFeb 1, 20172 votes

Nice "extreme mobility."

ScissorsNstuffFeb 1, 20172 votes

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perma 500 ms

not a tank

perma 500 ms AND cc near immunity

not a tank

jump that far outranges every adc escape

not a tank

because a fat man dashing over more walls then was funny so devs left it in?

not a tank

NO EXPLANATION NECESSARY

not a tank, so explain maybe

has ult but for his entire team lmfao

not a tank

better incombat mobility then

actually is a tank Just wondering what the problem is, why wouldn't a tank have better speed and maneuverability than a blind monk

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neither are tanks

see Sonic

tanks can go fast, deal with it

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/paZcBwCLLBM/maxresdefault.jpg

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not a tnak

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neither is a tank

lol

whats so funny? He's not even a tank

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neither is a tank

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neither is a tank

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neither is a tank

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voli is a fighter tank, hybrid tank does hybrid things

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calling warwick a tank is a very tacky thing to do don't you think?

I honestly cant even believe this guy was allowed into the game.

omg making this thread made me realize its even far more ridiculous than I previously thought LOL

well yes if you confuse fighters and tanks everything will seem silly

MistroTTCFeb 1, 20171 votes

That and a movement speed increase isn't exactly extreme mobility, also i'm pretty sure Malphite Gragas and mega Gnar count as tanks.

ScissorsNstuffFeb 1, 20171 votes

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That and a movement speed increase isn't exactly extreme mobility, also i'm pretty sure and mega count as tanks.

sure, if you ignore their actual function and most of their kit.

MistroTTCFeb 1, 20171 votes

I checked Riot's list of champion sub classes, Gragas Malphite Mega Gnar RekSai and Skarner are vanguards, which are tanks. (Here's a link) http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/3A5uuBw7-champion-subclass-list

Meep ManFeb 1, 20172 votes

Blitzcrank Gragas Malphite RekSai Skarner Trundle Zac

These are all Tanks. (Rek'sai is getting changed to not be a Tank soonish though)

Gnar is his own beast

EndlessSorcererFeb 1, 20172 votes

You seem to be greatly confused as to what a tank actually is.

Class and Subclass Definitions

Champion Subclass List

inb4 the WoW players come in here to correct me "theyre not 'tanks' theyre 'wardens'" or w/e shut up nobody cares

These are Riot's definitions, not WoW's.

Also, most of the champions you listed were fighters. Wardens are a subclass or tanks while fighters (i.e. Juggernauts and Divers) aren't.

fuffychanFeb 1, 20171 votes

This didnt exist until like 5 years after the game was released. So for the millions of players who started before then, no we are not suddenly going to start using these silly made-up terms.

EndlessSorcererFeb 1, 20173 votes

I've played the game since Season 2.

It was rather easy to adapt to the proper terminology.

fuffychanFeb 1, 20171 votes

Do you like soda? or pop?

Whatever you call it, the White House has announced it is to be referred to as "fizzy". Any attempts to use the older (and perfectly fine) terms will be met with hostility and downvotes.

EndlessSorcererFeb 1, 20172 votes

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Do you like soda? or pop?

Whatever you call it, the White House has announced it is to be referred to as "fizzy". Any attempts to use the older (and perfectly fine) terms will be met with hostility and downvotes.

Considering I'm Canadian, I refer to it as "pop" and will not be affected by the White House deciding to rename it.

fuffychanFeb 1, 20171 votes

No wonder youre being purposely unuseful. Point is still made. Go back and worship your PM Turdo.

EndlessSorcererFeb 1, 20172 votes

Careful with those stones in your glass house.

After all:

Trump is currently President
Your health care system is basically screwed
Many American citizens and foreigners who have aided the military overseas are barred from entering the country

KhâmulFeb 1, 20172 votes

I sense an odd number of chromosomes from this OP

Variks the LoyalFeb 1, 20171 votes

Everything ScissorsNstuff said.

Critmaster GarenFeb 1, 20172 votes

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Everything ScissorsNstuff said.

actually hes wrong in some cases. like gragas has been classified as a tank now, malphite was pretty much always a tank and has a tank kit.

no one knows what the fuck gnar is.

but generally hes right.

Trap or a TrickFeb 1, 20171 votes

they aren't tanks, they're wardens

Critmaster GarenFeb 1, 20172 votes

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they aren't tanks, they're wardens

wardens are a subclass of tanks.

tanks are separated into vanguards (engage tanks like leona, sejuani, malphite), and wardens (defensive peel heavy tanks like taric, poppy, and if im not mistaken, mao)

Meep ManFeb 1, 20172 votes

Warden is a sub-class of Tank. Vanguards initiate on the enemy team to disrupt them and open a door to the backline hopefully. Wardens do the exact opposite, disrupting anyone who tries to touch their backline.

fuffychanFeb 1, 20171 votes

Predictable again, no arguments against the actual extreme mobility, just a bunch of nobodies trying to tell me what is and whats not a "tank"

EndlessSorcererFeb 1, 20175 votes

It can be rather difficult to have an actual discussion when you completely screw up the basic premise.

Lack of proper foundation and all that.

MistroTTCFeb 1, 20172 votes

And when you think Maokai counts as extreme mobility.

EschetonFeb 1, 20171 votes

Most of these are melee-range engagers. Their job is to rush in(with their movement gapcloser thingy (that tends to have a long cd so they can't just use it to leave), do a bit of dmg, have some cc. Survive for longer than 0.5 seconds, as their team engages with them. Then either they die, but contributed enough to the teamfight for their team to win it. Or they survive because focus shifts to the actual threats, and they sorta deal ambient dmg and cc.

Why do you have a problem with this type of character? (note that certain outliers like Hecarim and Zac are OP Meta right now, but so are lots of other types of champs)

fuffychanFeb 1, 20171 votes

No class of characters should have all attributes, damage, mobility, and tankiness. There needs to be tradeoffs. Take Nasus for example. If he farms well he can do massive damage, is tanky af, but has no mobility. This is called BALANCE.

EschetonFeb 1, 20171 votes

That is an extreme of balance. We have 130+ champions. There can only be so many extremes. There has to be nuance.

MatakeFeb 1, 20171 votes

0/10 just no effort

fuffychanFeb 1, 20171 votes

I put a lot of effort into posting the lil pictures

SlythionFeb 1, 20171 votes

More thank half of these are divers, NOT *tanks. There are also some juggernauts and fighters mixed in as well, also not tanks.

The rest are vanguards, literally the subclass of tanks meant for...you guessed it...diving

You're complaint is founded on 2 flaws:

you don't know the difference between a tanky champion and a champion part of the tank class
you think every "tank" needs to be a Warden, someone that sits there and blocks incoming damage for others.

Explanation: Classes such as Divers/Juggernauts are tanky because in order to do their job (dive the backline and dish damage or soak damage and deal damage) require them to be able to withstand some sort of damage. The class that is referred to as tanks (notice: not tanky, just tanks) specialize in disruption and debuffs over damage.

That's why champions like Maokai and Amumu exist: They dive and provide cc and debuffs such as attack speed reductions

unlike divers such as Hecarim who are designed to access the backline and eliminate a target. They don't provide as much cc as vanguards but they do more damage.

And yes, I'm sure this is a troll post but I had nothing better to do so I felt like making this comment