Am I the only one feeling like ARAM is totally rigged ?

Beatrice falls·9/27/2018, 10:14:06 PM·17 votes·11,371 views

Like yeah I'm not saying the odds are always against me, but I always seem to see the same patterns in team comps such as :

  • A tank, 3 mages, 1 adc
  • 4 supports, 1 adc
  • 3 juggernauts (Garen Darius Yorick), 1 hard engage support, 1 mage for the "strong comps"
  • 2 enchanters, 1 tank, 1 mage, 1 adc

and usually against them it's totally randomized, like you can get Trynda Xin Olaf Mordekaiser and Evelynn

Here some screenshots to prove my point (neither saying it was my team or the enemy team on purpose, both are actually the case)

https://i.gyazo.com/f51911333f06ffc01000b4f7bbbbbd0c.png 4 supports 1 adc https://i.gyazo.com/4cc326e6f4e586cea592ab1fbf22d846.png 1 tank, 3 mages (Kog AP is meta in ARAM), 1 ADC

These are my most recent games, I can keep going and the same pattern always repeats itself, if it's not an adc, it's something like Azir Cassiopeia Ziggs

28 Comments

Saezio9/27/2018, 10:18:44 PM12 votes

Actually I am a full time ARAM player and I feel the same way. It is like when I see 5 melee in my team I roll twice just for giggles and it's always 2 more melee. And when I roll an adc 2 more adc come out . xD Could be more that it's my perception though.

Nanuk Pihoqahiak9/27/2018, 10:30:47 PM7 votes

Something to consider is that people with ARAM only accounts can force you into getting other champions. Since they have a small pool of champions that they can get, they're likely to get those (Typically strong ARAM picks), while you're stuck with being randomized something else.

It'd be interesting to see the data on how ARAM only accounts have an effect on the overall balance of ARAM. Something else that should probably be done is making it so ARAM is truly all random, and just have every champion available.

SociopathFriend9/28/2018, 5:37:10 AM3 votes

With the new reroll system in particular- of course you see good comps. You basically get full rerolls in one or two games.

So if you have a trash ARAM champion- you reroll. If you have a moderately good ARAM champion- you reroll. And if your team has the same- reroll. If your team doesn't have rerolls- you can reroll for them. It's abundantly easy to get decent or good champions for ARAM now.

Know what else happens when people get crap champs? They dodge. Game never starts.

There's an enormous bias in only judging ARAMs by the in-game results when the match starts.

Daddy Ants9/28/2018, 10:04:26 AM3 votes

https://i.gyazo.com/f1bd0f3a38e04aa62f6c63f527b9f090.png

3 Melee and 2 ranged vs 5 ranged S tier ARAM champs.

Primaquarius9/27/2018, 10:32:20 PM2 votes

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Leetri9/28/2018, 2:29:13 PM2 votes

It's not rigged, it just feels that way because players are rerolling the bad champions and keeping the good ones. Only way to make it "fair" is to remove rerolls all together and prevent people from dodging to get a new champ or by enforcing a meta so every team MUST get X Y and Z types of champions, both of which are terrible directions to go.

BestPudgeNA9/28/2018, 1:24:46 AM2 votes

That Sona comp is like the ARAM dream team shit is OP AF.

JoeMG9/28/2018, 5:30:33 PM2 votes

Somehow there's always a Ziggs Veigar or Brand on the enemy team...

Pika Fox9/29/2018, 2:26:17 AM2 votes

Youre trying to find patterns where there is none.

It largely just depends on what people own, what people on both teams get (afaik, you cant get 2 of the same champs in aram, or its at least extremely unlikely), and what you reroll into. Garbage picks often arent going to exist because people will often reroll them or trade them out.

Jaspers9/28/2018, 10:06:24 AM2 votes

Based on the fact I keep being given free rotation champs, it's definitely rigged. Stop doing this Riot, I don't own those champs for a reason.

DeltaSigma6/15/2019, 1:42:51 AM1 votes

Never mind the champions Rito decides to fix matches as well. I'm not that good a player, but when Rito makes my opponnents plat/diamond average with 5000 games experience per player vs my team which is bronze/gold average with 300-500 games average, what happens. Our team has 50 apm, their team average 200-300 apm. Every game is my team dying in the first 30s unless I full try hard. Our team, dont know what building adc/ap means, rerolls tanks and have all adc comps. Their team perfect poke/bruiser/tank comp.

I don't know if they're giving people they know free game privileges or something but it feels unnatural. if they fix matches at the local level, what do you think happens at the pro scene. This doesn't happen once or twice, but hundreds of games in a row,It's ridiculous.

Ratpie9/28/2018, 3:46:36 AM1 votes

All you need is one mana item to not run out ( item 3070 item 3802 ) and laugh all the way to the win. The easiest wins right now still is a team of all hard engage champs. You keep diving as a team and GG.

I own almost every champ except some out of principle (Yasuo) and while there does seem to be some champs I get a lot, its easily in the realm of rng. I have played a crapton of ARAM games.

Eldeazar9/28/2018, 11:06:31 AM1 votes

I don't agree it's rigged for classes and teamcomps. Although, I certainly feel like in a given day there is certain champions that are more likely to appear. Maybe it has to do with the free rotation, I don't know, it seems I see the same champions far too often in some days....

Summonah123699/28/2018, 1:41:24 PM1 votes

Why can'y ARAM just give me a champion that I KNOW how to play/main(ed).

Blue Moon Wolf9/29/2018, 1:03:12 AM1 votes

Tbf, I'm feeling it's a lot less rigged then it was before when you couldn't trade your champ for one in a "re-rolled pool" and they added champs from the past 3 free rotations, though sometimes it still feels like the other team gets the far better comp way too often to be just "random chance". Idk, at this point I try not to think about it cause I kind of feel like it's just me being paranoid, though I wouldn't go so far as to say that kind of thinking is wrong. Honestly I still think the problem would be solved if they just let you use every champ in the mode, but it is what it is till they do that.

CIayman9/29/2018, 1:06:46 AM1 votes

I once got 5 bruisers vs 5 bruisers

Was a fun time

AlienPrimate9/29/2018, 1:16:41 AM1 votes

Lol at you saying it is rigged then listing 4 different kinds of comps you see. If the game was so rigged, I wouldn't run into games when my entire team is all mages so I build AD on a mage or I already have 2 tanks on my team so I go full AP on Nautilus. You are just looking for patterns where there are none. I could say there is a pattern that I always get melee champions. Well of course there is...I only play melee champions so I don't bother buying ranged ones meaning there is a very slim chance that I get a ranged champion.