I barely see Graves or Lee Sin in games. Its always Caitlyn, Lucian, and Yasuo.

koshkyra··3 votes·505 views

Im seriously sick of these guys. Caitlyn is unkillable and ungankable in the laning phase and Lucian is able to do 1/2 your health in trades with his passive. You cannot even target yasuo, or even damage him for that matter, because he has 3 abilities designed to keeping you from attacking him. (Passive makes him unpokeable, W just negates all damage, and E makes him too mobile to even right click.)

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EngineeredUrMum2 votes

Hmm interesting. In my games I never see yasuo at fucking all. It's always Lee Sin and Graves and Ivern, like literally 99% of the time all 3 are pick/banned. Also I feel like Lucian might be falling off compared to xayah/some late game adcs, we'll see in the coming month. Fuck Caitlyn though.

xJLx MCHammer1 votes

Liar

Lee sin has nearly 50% pickrate. Out of 10 games I play, I see him 4-6 times. And I mostly play normal games to kill time

Cait, graves, lee, Lucian, and Yas also have huge pickrates. So yes, that's true. I can without a doubt say 10/10 of my games, at least one of these champions are in one of my games

koshkyra1 votes

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Liar

Lee sin has nearly 50% pickrate. Out of 10 games I play, I see him 4-6 times. And I mostly play normal games to kill time

Cait, graves, lee, Lucian, and Yas also have huge pickrates. So yes, that's true. I can without a doubt say 10/10 of my games, at least one of these champions are in one of my games

I have seen Lee maybe 3 times in the last 20 games. And i have not seen Graves in weeks, excluding one match two days ago.

Automated Riven1 votes

I rarely see graves. Luc I see occasionally but I think his fotm status is wearing off in low elo where people cant play him. and yas is pretty much perma banned these days. Dont really know why. he isnt that hard to beat.

BIH Diamond1 votes

You're getting downvoted because you're actually intelligent and identified the actual STRONG champions.

z63XnLCMwX1 votes

How to deal with Caitlyn or Lucian . Pick Vayne and scale into late game. How to deal with Yasuo . Pick a fighter to lane against him like Fiora Riven or XinZhao .

BIH Diamond1 votes

Cait hard counters Vayne in lane. That is the worst adc you can pick into a cait lmao

Yaśuo Main1 votes

Actually Yasuo has 2 abilities and not 3, his passive is not an ability.

And I don't get your reason about Yasuo's E. (or W) How can he negate all damage unless you play a champion entirely ranged (champ that has no way of going past a windwall) and you unload your entire rotation on the wall?

How can he be impossible to right click if you are supposedly ENTIRELY ranged (your reason for W makes me assume so) and having a range atleast above 450? How does his passive make him unpokeable if all you have to do is waste the weakest damaging spell OR if you are ranged, auto attack it? Whattt??? I'm sick of this shit, how do you not know how to play against him if you always see him? Why does your entire reasoning of Yasuo contradict itself? When will Lucian do 1/2 your hp unless you know, he does his entire combo? Is he not supposed to atleast hit half your hp if he unloads his entire combo on you, even though he has pretty much 2 auto attacks after he casts a spell? Fucking shitpost. Your reasoning for Caitlyn is just sad too, as she is NOT an undying tank and her being ungankable depends entirely on whether the lane is frozen or not?

koshkyra1 votes

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Actually Yasuo has 2 abilities and not 3, his passive is not an ability.

And I don't get your reason about Yasuo's E. (or W) How can he negate all damage unless you play a champion entirely ranged (champ that has no way of going past a windwall) and you unload your entire rotation on the wall?

How can he be impossible to right click if you are supposedly ENTIRELY ranged (your reason for W makes me assume so) and having a range atleast above 450? How does his passive make him unpokeable if all you have to do is waste the weakest damaging spell OR if you are ranged, auto attack it? Whattt??? I'm sick of this shit, how do you not know how to play against him if you always see him? Why does your entire reasoning of Yasuo contradict itself? When will Lucian do 1/2 your hp unless you know, he does his entire combo? Is he not supposed to atleast hit half your hp if he unloads his entire combo on you, even though he has pretty much 2 auto attacks after he casts a spell? Fucking shitpost. Your reasoning for Caitlyn is just sad too, as she is NOT an undying tank and her being ungankable depends entirely on whether the lane is frozen or not?

Im not even reading the paragrahps you wrote because as soon as i saw "NOT" i knew they were full of hate and disagreement for me. So ill just respond to something else i saw:

When will Lucian do 1/2 your hp unless you know, he does his entire combo?

1.) his entire combo isnt even hard to get off and you're acting like people dont use their entire combos in trades. A trade is litetally using your combo on someone then getting away.

2.) he can easily do 1/2 of your health early with E+passive, Q+passive.

Yaśuo Main1 votes

Then you prove my point lol, either you are lying or you refuse to get better at playing against any of these champions thus i confirm this as a shitpost

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