Fiora deals just as much of her damage as true damage as Vayne does (21%)

RedCyclone··3 votes·615 views

Keeping in mind that they virtually output the same amount of damage on average too, but the kicker is that Fiora builds mainly tank items

Riot can you not see how seriously fucked up that is?

% max health true damage should be a glasscannon stat only, not a bloody juggernauts

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WukongMain3 votes

one could argue that fiora's gets put out much quicker.

Given that you could ulti someone and in a manner of seconds have all 4 vitals attacked. If you played it right.

67chrome3 votes

% max health true damage should be a glasscannon stat only, not a bloody juggernauts

Why?

Generally speaking, basic stats like AD, AS, and Crit all scale better together with a glass-cannon build, where mixed damage, %HP damage, and true damage have much lower scaling with offensive items but allow a champion to output relevant damage while building defenses, or better scaling with defensive items in that sense.

Also: having glass-cannons with stat bonuses in the AD/AS/Crit realm allows for tanky champions to very effeciently counterbuild the damage of glass-cannons, while not having good counterbuild options vs. other tanky/bulky targets reliant on mixed damage, %HP shred, or true damage.

Finally: Fiora is a fighter. The tanky DPS archetype. Why is it blowing everyone's mind Fiora is building tanky while doing DPS? It's not like Riot reworked her into an assassin that can frontload her damage in 1 frame or jump 700 distance from fog of war.

RedCyclone2 votes

Because it is uncounterable, having this on a tanky, mobile, sticky, riposting champion straight up feels unfair to play against, not only this but she also has an incredibly overbearing earlygame and still scales into a hypercarry with little risk

As much as I hate Vayne, I can admit that she has to work her way to get to a point where she can start doing hypercarry things and also requires very careful positioning and target selection instead of say, facefucking the first enemy you come into contact with no care for who they are and steamrolling through a teamfight like Fiora does right now

Weiner the Pooh1 votes

Fiora is supposed to be a glass canon. The tank items she uses are just so overtuned. Thats the same reason Aklali and Yi can build tank and do a fuck ton of damage. Theyre not juggernauts, and neither is Fiora.

Maikal1 votes

You realize that Vayne can build tank too and still deal the same amount of true damage? It doesn't scale off AD. Now which one's broken again?

Really I think that both are broken, just not fiora for the reason you have.

AlwaysByMySide1 votes

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Keeping in mind that they virtually output the same amount of damage on average too, but the kicker is that Fiora builds mainly tank items

Riot can you not see how seriously fucked up that is?

% max health true damage should be a glasscannon stat only, not a bloody juggernauts

A Vayne can build about as tanky as Fiora and do the same proportional amount of true damage.

In fact, since she's doing less damage overall, the percentage of her damage that is true damage will be higher since the physical damage will be lesser, as long as Vayne has about as much attack speed with this tanky build as she does with her ADC build. Vayne's true damage doesn't actually scale, so she could theoretically build literally no AD items, as long as she had about as much attack damage, and deal the same amount of true damage as ADC Vayne.

Oh, and Vayne is still doing more true damage than Fiora, since Fiora does a little less damage on average than Vayne. In fact, both have lower than average total damage dealt for their lanes.

Your reasoning is flawed.

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