skarner

khorney·Jan 6, 2017·1 votes·851 views

undo skarners rework and bring back the pre spire rework. pre spire was far superior becuase his passive was on his q and his clear times in the jungle were much much faster before then it is now. the spires are stupid as hell.... so what did we get from pre spire to post spire rework.... his ganks are a tiny bit better because you have to hit ur e in order to stun.... before u just needed 3 attacks to stun. before you could split push fast as a boss and 1v1 people better. post rework... you gain a little ad scaling on spells...... and now spires are in certain places and they essentially do nothing but give 15 gold ...

36 Comments

Elite4RunnerJan 6, 20172 votes

People are downvoting your post because they don't want him reverted.

Quite simply, they disagree with you.

Even your Aquaman reference is completely false.

khorneyJan 6, 20171 votes

u do realize his spires as u stated were strong was his original q..... gained atatckspeed when the aoe hit a enemy or nuetral monster..... every thign ur saying is what old skarner was and hwo he was much superior.so u having ot hit ur e to gain ur passive is some how better then how it used to be is all u have ot do is qqqqqqqqq ? way to contradict yourself.

BeldairJan 6, 20171 votes

Perhaps you need to work on your grammar.

He just needs a small buff.

khorneyJan 6, 20171 votes

its funny you know im right

BeldairJan 6, 20173 votes

Actually, I don't think you are right..

I like how Skarner is.. They just need to move some power around.

khorneyJan 6, 20171 votes

yes explain this? ive given you several reason why pre spire was better. sure he needed to hit 3 things to stun for a gank but thats it. and sure not all the ad scaling as he is now but what eves. this is all spire skarner has over pre spire skarner? does less damage

lets see ult did more damage before. his clear times were faster before, he could actually split push if need be and bette rbefore. he didnt need to be in certain areas( spires) so be what ever you call it. he gained what his passive is now off his q . I can keep going?

BeldairJan 6, 20171 votes

Hello, I've already Explained it like 3 times.. But you are stuck in your ways and don't bother reading past I like Skarner how he is now.

Perhaps if you clearly read my posts, you would see my point. So until you do, please refrain from trying to argue with me.

khorneyJan 6, 20171 votes

perhaps you should make points first that prove this skarner is better. ive given you several reasons and you have given me none. All your saying is exactly how skarner used to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hBG7mxqUKE

BeldairJan 6, 20171 votes

I've been saying how Skarner is now... You are clearly a hopeless case.

Elite4RunnerJan 6, 20171 votes

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u do realize his spires as u stated were strong was his original q..... gained atatckspeed when the aoe hit a enemy or nuetral monster..... every thign ur saying is what old skarner was and hwo he was much superior.so u having ot hit ur e to gain ur passive is some how better then how it used to be is all u have ot do is qqqqqqqqq ? way to contradict yourself.

I never said that his current kit is stronger or weaker than it was before the rework.

I literally said that I don't want to see him reverted.

I liked him before too, but I would rather see them improve upon what he is now than to see them take a huge step backward.

khorneyJan 6, 20171 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hBG7mxqUKE

BeldairJan 6, 20171 votes

Skarner is stronger under his Spires.. Their locations allow him to control the jungle objectives (Red, Blue, Dragons, Baron) and be able to see what area the opposing jungler is at and if the enemy team is gonna try for Baron or Drag.

Before his post rework nerf, he could Practically 1v5 because of how ridiculous his atk speed, mana regen, and CD was while under his spire.. He is now quite balanced under his spires and out of them.

khorneyJan 6, 20171 votes

yes so making him immensly weaker is cool . and people downvote for 0 reason i love it. he was much much much stronger before this nerf/rework..... even with out the ad scaling he isnt near hwo strong he was before....so the fck what if he only needs to land his e to gank well he has to land his e to gank. before i bought hydra on him and aoe stun ftw ....... now ohh man he is liek aquaman .... if u come in the water ill mess u up////

BeldairJan 6, 20171 votes

That aquaman reference is ignorance.

His Spires are near Red buff, Blue buff, Dragon, and Baron.

So he can essentially control them..when he controls the spire, it can also help him with vision.. Seeing as they turn red when the enemy captures them, he can see when the enemy is going to attempt to take or control the objective.

khorneyJan 6, 20171 votes

again listen carefully.... before this poor excuse for a rework .. he was fine before. his q gained atatckspeed with every hit much like jinx. ill explain it better...imagine if jinx had ot hit her e to gain attack speed for half a sec much liek skarner. old skarner was how jinx powpow was. now you tell me whats better

BeldairJan 6, 20172 votes

There's no explaining anything to you.. When Skarner's rework was first released, he could 1v5 unlike pre-rework. They then nerfed him, and now he can't 1v5 but he can 1v2 with ease.

And he has better jungle control. He can basically tell if the enemy is going to go for blue, red, dragon, or baron.

khorneyJan 6, 20171 votes

Prerework skarner could 1v5 because i have done it several times.... q gains attack speed and if you were smart you would get hydra ...why you ask well it turned hsi q into aoe stun... so yes i have 1v5.

BeldairJan 6, 20171 votes

There's no explaining anything to you... Your mind is clouded by 1 opinion and nothing can get threw.

khorneyJan 6, 20171 votes

and im explaining how old skarner is better and thats fact. watch the video i sent you.... new skarner has 0 chance in doing that.

BeldairJan 6, 20171 votes

Actually your wrong...because i've done that as new skarner... I have even soloed Dragon at lvl 3. Can old Skarner claim to have soloed drag at lvl 3 with just 1 item?

khorneyJan 6, 20171 votes

yah i could all the time not hard to do . lets see u have to be in the aoe passive i do not.....

Big LincolnJan 6, 20171 votes

he's asking to go back to the Skarner that didn't have spires to begin with

and I agree, because they are one of the worst ideas we've gotten to date

Elite4RunnerJan 6, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JF1AE2fX,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2017-01-06T07:49:47.725+0000)

he's asking to go back to the Skarner that didn't have spires to begin with

and I agree, because they are one of the worst ideas we've gotten to date

I can agree that the spires are not as strong as they could be, but I don't want to see a revert.

His passive is not exclusively the spires though.

He gains Crystal Charge while he is within range of a spire AND any time he applies his stun or suppression to an enemy champion with E and R.

During this time he gains bonus movement speed, bonus attack speed, and bonus mana regeneration.

BeldairJan 6, 20171 votes

They need a balance between the current state of the spires and how they were when the rework was first released.

khorneyJan 6, 20171 votes

yah the downvotes are real becuase they know im right.... so what if i have ot hit another spell or aa to stun...... guess what ill have the faster clear times and the ability to split push better but youll lose some ad scaling... guess what i dont care if i do prespire skarner was 10 times better then this poor excuse.

BeldairJan 6, 20171 votes

Riot did the rework because he was never used and he was actually much easier to kill prespire than he currently is.

khorneyJan 6, 20171 votes

he wasnt but okay.

Big LincolnJan 6, 20171 votes

And we're back to him being never used

the spires are terrible and should be removed completely

Elite4RunnerJan 6, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JF1AE2fX,comment-id=00000001000100000001,timestamp=2017-01-06T08:20:43.282+0000)

And we're back to him being never used

the spires are terrible and should be removed completely

There are 136 champions in the game. There will always be someone who is "never used"

Ziggs was "never used" not very long ago.

Skarner is quite good at what he does, but he isn't popular because he isn't broken atm.

When the meta revolves around what hidden OP is played by well known pros and streamers, everyone has a false sense of what is good and what isn't.

BeldairJan 6, 20172 votes

Let's just give it up Elite, they will keep disagreeing with us.

They don't like him so they will argue against any point we make.

Big LincolnJan 6, 20171 votes

he isn't popular because he's outclassed unless he's broken

BeldairJan 6, 20171 votes

Actually, I only get outclassed by a few Junglers when I play Skarner.

Yes, I play Skarner jg.. And he still is a deadly champ when played and built correctly.. I build him like a bruiser (berserks, titanic, warmog, DMP, bloodthrister, botrk).

Elite4RunnerJan 6, 20171 votes

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Actually, I only get outclassed by a few Junglers when I play Skarner.

Yes, I play Skarner jg.. And he still is a deadly champ when played and built correctly.. I build him like a bruiser (berserks, titanic, warmog, DMP, bloodthrister, botrk).

I actually end up playing him a lot in ARAMs and the weekend rotation game modes. He is incredibly strong in Ascension.

And yes, his Spires are a HUGE part of what makes him so strong on both maps.

khorneyJan 6, 20171 votes

the real reason they nerfed skarner/changed him. He was exactly like udyr down to the T they had the exact same kits, minus skarner was stronger due to the fact his ult. Doing bonus damage on stacks of venom was pretty good.