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If bronze is worse than the average player...

Arcade Andrew··2 votes·525 views

And silver is normal "decent play" and gold is above average (ect)

Then how does it make sense that every season you send all the above average/average players down into average or below average?

I'm talking from a standpoint Of assuming that silver is where every average player who is just "alright" at the game belongs.

And bronze is where you belong if you suck at the game or are new.

So I'm Wondering how come riot can't develop a system that keeps players from Placing in bronze when they clearly don't belong there?

And also while I'm Thinking about it: shouldnt the reset, reset everyone's hidden ELO to a high silver low gold area? Then it adjusts based on more than just winning or losing a game?

I understand WHY everyone will always place lower in series, but I don't get why riot hasn't fixed the issue where you place WAY LOWER than your skill level.

1-2 divisions? That's a fair difference.

1-2 tiers? That's ridiculous

  • sincerely a silver player who knew I'd be placed in bronze anyways and is now in bronze five. Surrounded by the worst of The worst

-not really a rant just a thought (it could really be improved)

12 Comments

ModWulf Helhammer3 votes

You got that wrong.

Bronze to silver are the average player, with Gold starting to be above average, and everything after that just increases.

Arcade Andrew1 votes

So you're telling me there is no "below average" because I'm Pretty sure bronze is below average (and chock full of trolls/feeders/afks I never dealt with after I got silver)

BladeSteel1 votes

I kind of see some reason to do it like that. If they're really that good they "should" go back to that same level. BUT if they just got elo boosted, or bought the account, they'd go back to where they belong, and can't get back up unless they pay someone to do that again (which raises the chances of them getting banned). So I'm somewhat fine with it for that reason. I'm just going to wait for a bit before I play ranked so that I can miss all of the people getting back to where they belong.

weeaboomer1 votes

Yeah let's place everyone in gold where they won't decay. If you don't belong in bronze 5 then why don't you climb out?

WeaselGod2 votes

Honestly it feels pretty much impossible. This is the first time I've ever been in bronze since last season I was placed in silver, but it just seems like there's no getting out of it once you're in it. The level of toxicity and feeding is absolutely amazing. I've had 5 games in a row where people just throw while talking trash in all talk because they got fed early game and think they're top shit now.

weeaboomer1 votes

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it just seems like there's no getting out of it once you're in it. The level of toxicity and feeding is absolutely amazing. I've had 5 games in a row where people just throw while talking trash in all talk because they got fed early game and think they're top shit now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwPLSoQE9Qs it even shows what you're describing, look at the chat :D. I'm sorry, but if you're stuck in b5 you belong there. maybe wait a while so all the people who can climb to silver climb there and you play with the bronzies. But idk, even silver elo is really easy.

Arcade Andrew1 votes

I don't know if you read the post or not,but I was silver. And I'm No way stuck in bronze five. I just don't play as often and I don't see why every season riot places players into an area way under their skill level (with players also playing at a skill leve that is way under Yours)

B00B001 votes

i've climbed from B4 to SV in my first season, its more than possible just dig your heals in and refuse to lose, find a champ or two you can confidently and consistently do well on.

1st Movement1 votes

{quoted}

Honestly it feels pretty much impossible. This is the first time I've ever been in bronze since last season I was placed in silver, but it just seems like there's no getting out of it once you're in it. The level of toxicity and feeding is absolutely amazing. I've had 5 games in a row where people just throw while talking trash in all talk because they got fed early game and think they're top shit now.

Hi I spent most of my games last season swimming in the waters of silver

Until I found that underated champion and spammed it till I got to plat

Eventually I understood what to do to win and got better at trading Csing and winning lane and game.

I see toxic chat and I just ignore it and concentrate on my own game.

1st Movement1 votes

{quoted}

Honestly it feels pretty much impossible. This is the first time I've ever been in bronze since last season I was placed in silver, but it just seems like there's no getting out of it once you're in it. The level of toxicity and feeding is absolutely amazing. I've had 5 games in a row where people just throw while talking trash in all talk because they got fed early game and think they're top shit now.

Hi I spent most of my games last season swimming in the waters of silver

Until I found that underated champion and spammed it till I got to plat

Eventually I understood what to do to win and got better at trading Csing and winning lane and game.

I see toxic chat and I just ignore it and concentrate on my own game.

{quoted}

Honestly it feels pretty much impossible. This is the first time I've ever been in bronze since last season I was placed in silver, but it just seems like there's no getting out of it once you're in it. The level of toxicity and feeding is absolutely amazing. I've had 5 games in a row where people just throw while talking trash in all talk because they got fed early game and think they're top shit now.

I think riots shoulda made a new division bronze 6 to put all the actually bronzie bc I hear that some gold got put in bronze 3 lol makes it more averaged

56552559_DEL1 votes

{quoted}

Honestly it feels pretty much impossible. This is the first time I've ever been in bronze since last season I was placed in silver, but it just seems like there's no getting out of it once you're in it. The level of toxicity and feeding is absolutely amazing. I've had 5 games in a row where people just throw while talking trash in all talk because they got fed early game and think they're top shit now.

I know exactly how this feels. I placed 3 days ago into Bronze 2 with a 3-7 record. 5 of those matches were bullshit because not once did I get ANY help from anyone. I wasnt toxic at all either. I pinged for help multiple times when we had to deal with 3-4 man ganks and I even asked politely "could we please get some help here?" All to be met with a resounding "you are a carry, you shouldnt need help."

Well, i dont know about you guys but there is only so much 1-2 people can do in bot lane against 3-4 gank squads multiple times in the same game because the other team knows your jg is not helping you pressure or gank at all. Then the jg has the audacity to blame ME because we lost bot lane even though, at no point did they come down and help against the sieges. And its pretty much common sense to push the lane that isnt getting help because it makes winning easier and that is what the other team did.

Had I been given teammates that A) communicated B) knew their role and C) provided teamwork, i more than likely WOULDNT have gotten 5 of those 7 losses. My first game was a win because everyone communicated, they knew their role and the teamwork was impeccable. But you give me teammates that want to just farm and do their own thing while expecting everyone else to carry without help in a TEAM game, no shit you are going to get a loss and this happened to me 5 goddamn times and I was placed in Bronze 2 because of the "teammates" douchebaggery. That was completely unfair.

Arcade Andrew1 votes

Don't get me wrong I CAN carry myself out. The problem is I don't play as often as I used to nowadays, so when I So when I do play 1 or 2 games a day it's it's hard to climb when 75% of bronze games are full of feeders/trolls/afks/people who don't care to win/ people who are below average at the game and simply just don't know what you mean when you ping top Mia then ping warning mid and and say care mid.

Bronze players don't understand The mechanics of the game and generally have no map Awareness and don't ward. not to mention they get extremely toxic and report happy when you try and help Them.

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