Before making a balance post about the new runes

Eedat··12 votes·625 views

Please don't ignore that they are replacing both Runes and Masteries.

Don't make a post regarding the balance of a new Rune without factoring in what's being lost to get it. These new Runes aren't supplemental to all the current choices. You can't just pick them apart for 'being OP' while ignoring all the current Runes and Masteries being lost to get one of these new ones. Don't pick apart X for being OP without factoring in that you're losing Thunderlords to get it. Don't claim Y is broken while ignoring the fact that Warlord's Bloodlust and Vampirism are gone. You get the point.

Please don't forget to factor this into any discussions about balance as more and more details are released over the following months.

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Penns2 votes

I still wonder how thats gonna work tho, playing on a new account without stat-runes is actually so fking weird lol, its almost unplayable if youre used to having them.

Steelflame1 votes

They probably will adjust champion base stats as needed, as they did when they nerfed Armor seals by removing 4 armor from the set of 9 they gave all champs 4 more base armor. ADCs will either see a small boost to base AD, or there will be an easily grab-able minion damage rune that gives like +15 damage to minions on hit or something like that, the jungle will probably get a full rework as it always does every season, and other such changes.

Myozthirirn1 votes

Playing without runes feels weird because everyone else has them. If everyone has +15 ad and +9 armor you changed literaly nothing. All you need to change for a world without stat-runes is make last hiting early easier and make jungle deal less damage early.

Weight of Law1 votes

They stated somewhere they would be readjusting base stats when the new rune system comes out I believe.

Teridax682 votes

I don't think any sort of balance complaint surrounding the new runes is going to be all that meaningful, because this is an update intended to change a part of League's design, not fix its balance. There will obviously be huge balance upsets after this, along with many unforeseen abuse cases, and those will have to be dealt with in the months that will follow, but in the end the new system will be fully integrated into the game and counted as part of its balancing environment. If a champion or build happens to be OP with a specific rune setup, it will be nerfed, and if a champion ends up falling really below par, they can be buffed.

Really, if there's a more relevant conversation to be had about Runes Reforged, it's about the design of the new runes, not their balancing. Overheal, for example, is more or less just a 10% bonus to total health to any champion with sustain, and isn't going to be particularly rich with gameplay on a champion with always-on healing, i.e. any marksman. Zombie Ward might become essential for supports, as they're still required to always invest in vision whenever they can, though the gameplay it promotes is fantastic. Overcharger looks like a perfect release valve on any mage or support concerned that they're over-dipping on CDR, which is a real problem in an environment saturated with the stat. As much as I have my own reservations regarding the long-term viability of Runes Reforged, it proposes a lot of interesting effects already, some of which seem really fun, and a few of which might need another look at.

GigaPube2 votes

only phreak does that level of math that i know of. most of the time in his patch rundowns that level of math isnt needed but this time i hope he goes as deep as he usually does compared to smaller things in minor patches. in terms of discussions, theres gonna inevitably be the most complaints we've ever seen, based on the rioter saying this is the biggest change we've ever seen. just continue ignoring any post that has no evidence or reasoning for their arguments

might wanna repost this in like, what....6 months? for when it actually comes out

Just Blame Jenny1 votes

But they're imbalanced! I mean, have you even seen Draven this patch?

/s

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