Bronzies

creatureplex··3 votes·710 views

Alright look, here's the roles in the game!

ADC-Attack Damage Carrier otherwise known as a marksman like Miss Fortune, Graves, even Kindred, they build attack damage and ditch out damage over time through their auto attacks relying little on their actual abilities reserve for special circumstances.

Upside-Sustainable damage, this is your damage dealer, in team fights this is the fucker that's doing most of your damage usually. So last thing you want is your adc to die.......so your team needs to make sure the heavy assassins that are playing in bronze can't get to your fucking ashe, the more you protect your adc, your chances of winning increase.

APC-Ability Power Carry otherwise known as a mage, not a support, but an apc that's building ability power, Ziggs, Xerath great examples. They rely solely on their abilities usually throwing down abilities into combos, they force the enemy team to build MR so that late game your adc can do damage without being resisted, this is especially true to those pesky players that love playing Assassins mid, some exceptions like Katarina and Kassadin are different because they are also mages.

Tank-Okay this one is obvious soak damage and usually in the front lines, should be anyways.......If you are Nasus, Garen, even Darius, a lot of people don't know this but they can tank, they aren't just bruisers.....Build defensively and hold the line, keep assassins off your carries, and take the damage, you should be the first one in, and the last one to leave the fight.......Okay.......okay so why are you chasing through the enemy jungle after Master Yi, how about instead you stay in front and trust that your team will win this team fight, if you are to die, so be it, at least all the damage is being done to you and not the rest of your team.

Bruiser/Off-Tank- You are not an assassin your job is to disrupt any frontline they may have. Get through get to the carry if you can if not fine disrupt the front line spread them up, make it easier for your team to prioritize targets. Vi, Xin Zhao are great examples of brusers, don't go chasing down the adc, stay in the fight beat up some people and push the adc away from their team, so that your assassins can take care them easier.

Assassins-Your not the carries, you will not be doing the most damage, you might have the most kills but you aren't the damage dealer, your job, see that Ashe, and that Morgana, your job get to them, kill them, chase them until you kill them or you die, keep them away from the team fight, be smart don't go in knowing your going to die. Assassinate your target get out of there, come back after your abilities are off cooldown and take out another target.

Support-You are the team's mom, or dad whatever........your main goal is to watch over your team be that wall like Braum, initiate the fight like Leona, pop that game changing ult like Soraka, aoe their entire team like Sona.......keep assassins off your carries, that is your main goal, it's not the early game anymore.....so what your job doesn't change, why are you Morgana running after Jinx? Stay here and ult their fucking team spread them apart shit.

Their is your roles on a fucking pedestal!

And then their is the infamous hyper carries, Master Yi, Yasuo, okay these champions most of them were design before the current meta came into existence, every since that meta, Master Yi, and several hypercarries aren't viable later in the game stages, say gold and above with well coordination not seen in low level play Master Yi as well as a lot of these type of champions don't do so well. I like to consider them as cheese champions kind of like a 6-pool for Zerg against Terran, it works sometimes, it might even be able to get you out of bronze but once you get to silver maybe gold, and that's a big if........you'll be shot right back at the bottom because instead of mastering more team oriented type champions, you chose to master Master Yi useless pass bronze and silver. Reason being unless fed, they serve no purpose in the game.....like a 6 pool if it fails the game is as good as over, same with these type of champions. Yasuo is one the few champions that can hyper carry a team in bronze and is still useful in all stages of the game, he no longer would be considered a hyper carry in gold and above and becomes a strong assassin/Bruiser depending on how he builds.

28 Comments

MagicFlyingLlama4 votes

What is the meaning of this (shit)post?

creatureplex1 votes

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What is the meaning of this (shit)post?

Shit post? Name one thing I'm wrong about?

MagicFlyingLlama3 votes

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Shit post? Name one thing I'm wrong about?

Nothing particularly wrong, just the entire post seems kind of stating the obvious, and what even is the title?

creatureplex1 votes

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Nothing particularly wrong, just the entire post seems kind of stating the obvious, and what even is the title?

Bronzies-To you it's obvious but to bronzies it's like rocket science and very annoying when dealing with it.

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

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Bronzies-To you it's obvious but to bronzies it's like rocket science and very annoying when dealing with it.

I guess i can assume this is a sort of bronzie-guide.

If i cant figure it out, they certainly cant.

creatureplex1 votes

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I guess i can assume this is a sort of bronzie-guide.

If i cant figure it out, they certainly cant.

No the problem is when I got a Yasuo that thinks he can 1 v 5 and not understanding that sure a lot of games you might but if your playing with me, I'm assuming that they at least know how to play against a Yasuo considering I use to main Gangplank top lane and smoke Yasuo's ass.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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No the problem is when I got a Yasuo that thinks he can 1 v 5 and not understanding that sure a lot of games you might but if your playing with me, I'm assuming that they at least know how to play against a Yasuo considering I use to main Gangplank top lane and smoke Yasuo's ass.

no the problem is that you are playing with "bronzies" and yet you are here like you know so much more than anyone... if you are playing with those type of people you should look at yourself before criticizing others.

creatureplex1 votes

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no the problem is that you are playing with "bronzies" and yet you are here like you know so much more than anyone... if you are playing with those type of people you should look at yourself before criticizing others.

I did look at myself this is basic common sense, yet in Bronze I don't see a lot of players doing it. But thanks for the non-constructive criticism. You haven't played with me, you sound like one of those players that does shit like this and wonder why they can't win games.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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I did look at myself this is basic common sense, yet in Bronze I don't see a lot of players doing it. But thanks for the non-constructive criticism. You haven't played with me, you sound like one of those players that does shit like this and wonder why they can't win games.

you are playing with those type of people, sorry but you aren't as good as you think you are. You can say that you are way better and more knowledgeable or whatever than everyone you play with that means absolutely nothing since you are playing with those players. Guess what? you are just as bad as they are. You might not be bad in the same areas as they are but that doesn't mean you are exempt of the blame of your loses. You cannot change the people you play with, you can only improve yourself. Do that instead of wasting your time making shit post threads that mean literally nothing and doesn't help you in the slightest and only serve as some really desperate attempt at insulting others

creatureplex1 votes

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you are playing with those type of people, sorry but you aren't as good as you think you are. You can say that you are way better and more knowledgeable or whatever than everyone you play with that means absolutely nothing since you are playing with those players. Guess what? you are just as bad as they are. You might not be bad in the same areas as they are but that doesn't mean you are exempt of the blame of your loses. You cannot change the people you play with, you can only improve yourself. Do that instead of wasting your time making shit post threads that mean literally nothing and doesn't help you in the slightest and only serve as some really desperate attempt at insulting others

I've seen gold players play like bronze watch youtube videos of players that are bronzies that are actually pretty damn good just make a few mistakes in a game that your typical plat player or so wouldn't make. Their is a huge variance in skill when it comes to bronze a huge gap, that unless you are a bronze player you wouldn't know. Plat level players completely different they don't chase, they know the basic rules, that's why they're in plat but everyone there knows that.

I'm in bronze because I sucked, I'm improving but I main adc, and if my team doesn't peel for me or spend some effort on keeping assassins and such from doing their job to me, I'm not going to be very effective. "Well play Ezreal or some shit, I'm sorry I'm not going to play Ezreal because other players don't know how to play their champions or don't understand this game very well. I make mistakes, I try to learn from them, but I can take a horse to water, it's up to the horse to drink the water. Our last game was one of those games where if my support bought supportive items, I would of snowballed and probably won the game for my team in less than 20 minutes she went full ap which really punished me. She cared more about getting a kill than protecting me, which as a support is really selfish play style. And I never once exempted myself if you bother reading further up on comments I said what separates me from other high level players are those slight mistakes that I make.

And I like to look at it like a guideline what I posted, and has nothing to do with actually insulting others.......I considered it like basic rules of lol follow these and we'll get out of bronze, we'll win this game.........Trying to describe these things to others is almost like talking to a wall. This one game, I'm Ashe I'm doing alright, but I have no front line because every team fight my Trundle is off split pushing..........I'm holding mid top lane what ever lane I need to hoping Trundle, you coming dude......What happens when you Ashe and you have no support, or tank by you and Fizz/Zedd/Akali jump on you? You die, now I know that so I know I'm not going to put myself in a position to let that happen, but because I have no front line, I can't proceed so I'm getting backed up, avoiding skill shots, but eventually one is going to hit me, and if I have no tank or support I'm as good as dead.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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I've seen gold players play like bronze watch youtube videos of players that are bronzies that are actually pretty damn good just make a few mistakes in a game that your typical plat player or so wouldn't make. Their is a huge variance in skill when it comes to bronze a huge gap, that unless you are a bronze player you wouldn't know. Plat level players completely different they don't chase, they know the basic rules, that's why they're in plat but everyone there knows that.

I'm in bronze because I sucked, I'm improving but I main adc, and if my team doesn't peel for me or spend some effort on keeping assassins and such from doing their job to me, I'm not going to be very effective. "Well play Ezreal or some shit, I'm sorry I'm not going to play Ezreal because other players don't know how to play their champions or don't understand this game very well. I make mistakes, I try to learn from them, but I can take a horse to water, it's up to the horse to drink the water. Our last game was one of those games where if my support bought supportive items, I would of snowballed and probably won the game for my team in less than 20 minutes she went full ap which really punished me. She cared more about getting a kill than protecting me, which as a support is really selfish play style. And I never once exempted myself if you bother reading further up on comments I said what separates me from other high level players are those slight mistakes that I make.

And I like to look at it like a guideline what I posted, and has nothing to do with actually insulting others.......I considered it like basic rules of lol follow these and we'll get out of bronze, we'll win this game.........Trying to describe these things to others is almost like talking to a wall. This one game, I'm Ashe I'm doing alright, but I have no front line because every team fight my Trundle is off split pushing..........I'm holding mid top lane what ever lane I need to hoping Trundle, you coming dude......What happens when you Ashe and you have no support, or tank by you and Fizz/Zedd/Akali jump on you? You die, now I know that so I know I'm not going to put myself in a position to let that happen, but because I have no front line, I can't proceed so I'm getting backed up, avoiding skill shots, but eventually one is going to hit me, and if I have no tank or support I'm as good as dead.

excuses after excuses with more excuses. Sorry but you are playing with and against bronze players. If you are improving like you say you are you would know what to do against those bronze players. Smurfs and many others make a bronze challenge and they get over that rank in little to no time at all... you not being over bronze should already tell you that you have not improved enough. There is always something you can do to improve. Whether that means better map awareness, better positioning, better build paths, better targeting or something else. There is always something to do to improve yourself. All I see here is someone who is more concerned about his teammates and complaining about them than actually looking at your own play and then being all "I am better than they are" you are not. Simple as that. You are playing with those players I don't care what you think about yourself, I don't care that is your teammates fault that you are stuck in bronze. You are the sole reason you are stuck where you are not your teammates or the enemies you face, you are not good enough to be anywhere else but bronze atm. Stop complaining about things you cannot change. Do something about the things you can and better yet duo with someone that has shown that knows what they are doing in your current rank so that you have yet another person who you know is can do well.

creatureplex1 votes

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excuses after excuses with more excuses. Sorry but you are playing with and against bronze players. If you are improving like you say you are you would know what to do against those bronze players. Smurfs and many others make a bronze challenge and they get over that rank in little to no time at all... you not being over bronze should already tell you that you have not improved enough. There is always something you can do to improve. Whether that means better map awareness, better positioning, better build paths, better targeting or something else. There is always something to do to improve yourself. All I see here is someone who is more concerned about his teammates and complaining about them than actually looking at your own play and then being all "I am better than they are" you are not. Simple as that. You are playing with those players I don't care what you think about yourself, I don't care that is your teammates fault that you are stuck in bronze. You are the sole reason you are stuck where you are not your teammates or the enemies you face, you are not good enough to be anywhere else but bronze atm. Stop complaining about things you cannot change. Do something about the things you can and better yet duo with someone that has shown that knows what they are doing in your current rank so that you have yet another person who you know is can do well.

Your just jumping on the oh your bronze you suck mentality......I did suck got placed bronze, but I ain't no smurf challenger player therefore I'm not going to be able to carry every game and rush out of bronze, I'm going to have to grind and it's going to take awhile, but I know I can get out of bronze, I know that knowledge wise, I can play my small pool of champions pretty damn well. As ADC I need to work on CS a little more, as support, item building per situation. I don't get ganked that much at bot lane. I ping a lot, ward a lot more than pretty much every other bronze player, and my positioning isn't that bad. Just because you are bronze doesn't mean you belong there, that's a retarded mentality. When the overwhelming majority of players are in bronze and silver, it isn't because they suck, they just haven't master the game yet.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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Your just jumping on the oh your bronze you suck mentality......I did suck got placed bronze, but I ain't no smurf challenger player therefore I'm not going to be able to carry every game and rush out of bronze, I'm going to have to grind and it's going to take awhile, but I know I can get out of bronze, I know that knowledge wise, I can play my small pool of champions pretty damn well. As ADC I need to work on CS a little more, as support, item building per situation. I don't get ganked that much at bot lane. I ping a lot, ward a lot more than pretty much every other bronze player, and my positioning isn't that bad. Just because you are bronze doesn't mean you belong there, that's a retarded mentality. When the overwhelming majority of players are in bronze and silver, it isn't because they suck, they just haven't master the game yet.

if you improve you will climb the ranks. People aren't in bronze because they haven't mastered the game. People are in bronze because they lack something. Whether that is CSing better, learning how to take advantage of their leads, how matchups works, how to position themselves better, how to ward, how to have actual map awareness among many other things. People are in Bronze to high Diamond due to a variety of those reasons. They haven't mastered the game yet? yes! but you don't need to master the game to go from bronze to silver or from silver to gold or from gold to plat. You just need to actually improve in those categories to some extent. You can continue to believe that you don't belong in bronze all you want. All it does is make it even more clear that you do belong there. Until you actually stop thinking yourself better than everyone around your rank you won't be getting anywhere. Until you stop looking at what everyone else is doing but never putting any attention to you, then you won't be getting anywhere. I don't care about your woes of "teammates keeping me down!" if you truly deserved a higher rank you would already be there

creatureplex1 votes

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if you improve you will climb the ranks. People aren't in bronze because they haven't mastered the game. People are in bronze because they lack something. Whether that is CSing better, learning how to take advantage of their leads, how matchups works, how to position themselves better, how to ward, how to have actual map awareness among many other things. People are in Bronze to high Diamond due to a variety of those reasons. They haven't mastered the game yet? yes! but you don't need to master the game to go from bronze to silver or from silver to gold or from gold to plat. You just need to actually improve in those categories to some extent. You can continue to believe that you don't belong in bronze all you want. All it does is make it even more clear that you do belong there. Until you actually stop thinking yourself better than everyone around your rank you won't be getting anywhere. Until you stop looking at what everyone else is doing but never putting any attention to you, then you won't be getting anywhere. I don't care about your woes of "teammates keeping me down!" if you truly deserved a higher rank you would already be there

Except you don't understand shit, you're an idiot, I've mentioned several times over and over again, that I'm not perfect but I have a great knowledge and spent hours upon hours of research to better understand the game, got info,created my own item sets, change up my builds per situation, direct my team to the best of my abilities.......I do what I can, I made this guide in the hopes that maybe it'll help just 1 bronze player out to help them understand the game as well as I do. Do I deserve bronze, IDK maybe I know when I first got placed there, I sure in the hell did, I sucked badly. Didn't ward properly didn't understand trading and counter picks, played with a large champion pool, and did like most bronze players won some games lost some games. Right now I've played 5 games, I've won 4 of them......3 of them with Ashe with a crappy ass team if I may add........my supports going full ap, my tanks split pushing, my team feeding I've seen it all. I will never say I was the only reason we won those games, shit I didn't even ditch out the most damage in some of those games......But I kited well avoided death, made some plays built base off of situations, and most of all kept my deaths relatively low despite my team not peeling or offering any type of protection from assassins. Did I play a big role in the reason we won those games, I say yeah I did a hell of a job, was I the only reason no........But I will say I didn't get carried, I pulled my weight and always do the best that I can with what I have.

BigBellBrute1 votes

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Shit post? Name one thing I'm wrong about?

You confuse character class with roles.

creatureplex1 votes

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You confuse character class with roles.

whatever still not wrong!

SeductiveCelery1 votes

or you can play illaoi and literally 1v9 to victory

I boosted myself from b5 to s3 by spamming her lol

creatureplex1 votes

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or you can play illaoi and literally 1v9 to victory

I boosted myself from b5 to s3 by spamming her lol

Okay Illoai is a tank/fighter I believe, her ult is really powerful and the best way to defeat her is by spreading apart so she can't slam her tentacles on you, the reason why you were able to do so well with her because in bronze despite the number of champions that have great aoe like Miss Fortune and Brand, bronzies tend to still clump up, I can't tell you how many times I've been retreating as an adc from Brand and get killed by his ult because some idiot thought it be a good idea to run towards me while he's being ulted.

xPhantomDancerX1 votes

It's not called boosting when you're climbing by yourself...

KlydeFrog1 votes

no supp are the teams bitch and scape goat for why u lost

creatureplex1 votes

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no supp are the teams bitch and scape goat for why u lost

Okay first off I play bot/support right now, I play as Ashe, Miss Fortune, Twitch, Tristana, adc, Morgana, Thresh, Sona, Lulu, Trundle as support, I never blame a support unless it is the supports fault, usually a loss is a combination of several players including yourself maybe not always but usually especially true in low ello games. Supports can be to blame for a loss but no more than any other role in the game. Supports suck if they have a shitty adc, they won't shine very well, and supports can be counter as well to, for instance, yesterday I went Thresh into Tahm Kench......I wasn't really able to do much I played safe kept Caitlyn away from Jinx, and we lost it happens to the best of us. You can't win 100% of the games regardless of how good you think you are.

Yaśuo Main1 votes

I'm pretty damn sure at this point the teams bitch is ADC because the support is the golden girl that never does wrong and its always the damn ADC's fault like the fucking entire boards says so.

creatureplex1 votes

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I'm pretty damn sure at this point the teams bitch is ADC because the support is the golden girl that never does wrong and its always the damn ADC's fault like the fucking entire boards says so.

I never once solo blame the adc......when you lose, it's not just your team's fault, it's your fault to, it's everybody's fault, not saying oh I can solo carry my way out of bronze if that was so true, I'm sure their wouldn't be as many morons in bronze.

jocomotion1 votes

Ok, This gave me a laugh.

creatureplex1 votes

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Ok, This gave me a laugh.

Yeah but in bronze this is something most players lack is a solid understanding of what their job in the team actually is.

jocomotion1 votes

Oh no I didn't mean a laugh as in "Ha look at this guy trying to tell me how to play the game" I meant it more like "LOL i fuckin love how passionate this guy is about this"

creatureplex1 votes

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Oh no I didn't mean a laugh as in "Ha look at this guy trying to tell me how to play the game" I meant it more like "LOL i fuckin love how passionate this guy is about this"

Well thanks, I'm stuck in bronze I make bronze mistakes sometimes it happens, 90% of games I find myself being the shot caller ping here ward here, prioritize this, Garen don't chase that Jinx.....you know sometimes they listen I say most of the time, we don't always win but I will say unless the game is completely one sided from the start generally my team wins when they listen to me. But if they don't and blatantly ignore me it kind of sucks. I feel like I have to lie and tell them I'm challenger even though my gameplay is maybe gold at best, not like most of them would understand the difference.

creatureplex1 votes

What I'm saying is doing this knowing your role, it will win you more games, you won't always win games, but you'll have a better shot.

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