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WAIT?! Buffs to CD on Riven And Vayne mobility?!

Ravenous Howls·5/2/2019, 12:31:42 AM·66 votes·16,472 views

I am not sure why these two, seriously broken champs, are getting CDR buffs to make their most frustrating abilities even more accessible. Riven is the TOP top laner with a well above average 53.54% WR and 10.76% pick rate. Vayne is the TOP bot lane pick with 51.71% WR and RIDICULOUS 20% pick rate. But both are getting direct CDR buffs to their mobility without trimming anything else out of their kits... This is why, Riot, you have a negative reputation with your player base because you make unfounded, unbalanced changes to problem champions... Good... job... Riot...

[zombie-brand-clap]

Edit: I missed some CDR nerfs to Riven's Shield and Vayne's Tumble at early levels but I don't see this affecting them at all.

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ModThe Djinn5/2/2019, 12:35:13 AM20 votes

Vayne is getting a nerf to her current mobility. Final Hour now reduces the cooldown of Tumble significantly less at early levels. The fact that she can use Final Hour 5-10 seconds sooner still equates to a meaningful loss of in-fight power.

Riven is also getting a nerf to her mobility (and a considerable one) by her E cooldown shifting from 10/9/8/7/6 to 14/13/12/11/10 seconds. This reduces her mobility and her durability, and, while she can indeed Q slightly more often, the trade-off is not in her favor.

SpaceRazzerKappa5/2/2019, 12:35:46 AM12 votes

The Riven changes were a joke but i think they nerfed vaynes Q cdr under the effect of R am i right ?

General Esdeath 5/2/2019, 2:14:15 AM11 votes

Edit: I missed some CDR nerfs to Riven's Shield and Vayne's Tumble at early levels but I don't see this affecting them at all.

lmao are you actually trolling? They dominate early game and snowball, clearly an EARLY GAME nerf would stop the EARLY GAME snowball in the EARLY GAME.

iiGazeii5/2/2019, 12:37:03 AM11 votes

Riven got a sizable nerf to her E cooldown, and Vayne lost a big chunk of the Tumble CDR during her ult. She can't stay invisible for an entire teamfight until level 16, and the changes to Guinsoo's means she can't just run around popping Silver Bolts every other attack.

Neither Riven nor Vayne have crossed the invisible "objectively OP" threshold, so Riot is making adjustments, not straight-up nerfs. They're taking power out of what's frustrating and difficult to deal with and putting that power elsewhere.

ValiantKiller5/2/2019, 3:55:40 AM6 votes

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I am not sure why these two, seriously broken champs, are getting CDR buffs to make their most frustrating abilities even more accessible. Riven is the TOP top laner with a well above average 53.54% WR and 10.76% pick rate. Vayne is the TOP bot lane pick with 51.71% WR and RIDICULOUS 20% pick rate. But both are getting direct CDR buffs to their mobility without trimming anything else out of their kits... This is why, Riot, you have a negative reputation with your player base because you make unfounded, unbalanced changes to problem champions... Good... job... Riot...

[zombie-brand-clap]

Edit: I missed some CDR nerfs to Riven's Shield and Vayne's Tumble at early levels but I don't see this affecting them at all.

That stupid nerf to Vayne R won't make difference cause her output damage is too dumb high and enough to kill you within seconds. While Riven Q mean she going to escape invades more easier now.

That the whole change is just beyond bs and this balance team clearly just favor them.

And best part two hards champions to learn , haha

The thigh guy5/2/2019, 12:42:30 AM3 votes

Because. Don’t you know rito is just playing with dice when they do “balance” changes?

Daddy Ants5/2/2019, 9:36:17 AM3 votes

The circlejerk has selective reading it seems.

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/bjmakj/51_pbe_update_loot_assets_idahotb_asset_more/em9smbb/?context=10000

The R change was a "leftover" from previous changes they were experimenting with.

There is no cooldown change coming to Final Hour, it's an unintended change.

5050BS5/3/2019, 10:08:58 AM3 votes

Yep Riot is giving us the Finger

General Matty5/2/2019, 12:30:32 PM2 votes

Everyone: Gut Riven and Vayne Riot:Gives them tiny nerfs and doesn't touch either of them for the next 20 million patches

thommoboy5/3/2019, 6:06:21 PM2 votes

because they are now seeing pro play and require buffs to stay in the spotlight, it's as easy as that, another classic pro play comes first move, without thinking of the people that actually make riot money (the normal population)

boricCentaur15/2/2019, 1:45:39 AM2 votes

Riot said there not trying to nerf them so fucking deal it like maybe there not op hmm maybe maybe you just need to learn the game!!!!