Conqueror Entitlement

Ravenous Howls·2/11/2019, 2:55:34 PM·18 votes·3,761 views

Why do so many believe that they should be allowed to get true damage for free and invalidate an entire class of champions, tanks?

Some of the most oppressive top laners were already oppressive before this rune. If you want to tank bust then you should have to sacrifice a part of your build to do it, ex. buying Lord dominiks regards or mortal reminder, or relegate that responsibility to your adc.

Conquer is a crutch to give certain champions much easier early game dominance when the worst abusers have absurdly high damage, true damage in their kits or burst. Most of them have insane mobility as well.

Conqueror should be removed, period.

61 Comments

Moody P2/11/2019, 6:48:47 PM6 votes

tanks weren't and arent invalidated by conqueror and we would be better off dropping this faulty narrative

Saezio2/11/2019, 2:57:51 PM5 votes

I think the problem is that resistance tanks are so much worse against it than shield tanks. I think part of the true dmg should be removed and add shieldbuster. 400% dmg to shields or something

P.S. Sion sucks

AirKingNeo2/13/2019, 5:51:49 AM5 votes

#Aftershock Entitlement

Why do so many believe that they should be allowed to get resistances for free and invalidate an entire class of champions, assassins?

Some of the most oppressive mid laners were already oppressive before this rune. If you want to get really fucking tanky then you should have to sacrifice a part of your build to do it, ex. buying fucking tank items, or relegate that responsibility to your tank.

Aftershock is a crutch to give certain champions much easier early game dominance when the worst abusers have absurdly high damage, AoE CC in their kits or burst. Most of them have range as well.

Aftershock should be removed, period.


But on a serious note, your post is kinda stupid. You think bruisers should have to buy LDR/Mortal Reminder or just shouldn't be able to duel tanks AT ALL. "Just let your ADC do it." IS THAT ACTUALLY YOUR ARGUMENT? Then you'll complain that ADCs are too dominant, and also split pushing will be dead because bruisers can't kill tanks your short-sighted scenario.

Also, the champions who use Conqueror don't have absurdly high damage or burst, or even insane mobility (these aren't assassins, who have an engage and escape). Nor where these champions "oppressive" before this rune. In fact, ~90% of them SUCKED before Conqueror. Are you memory blind by bias or do you just refuse to look at data?

Also, taking away a class's keystone without offering an alternative is just asking them the class to be useless. You also provided ZERO statistical evidence in your argument.

Pokemonred2002/11/2019, 3:01:47 PM4 votes

I just want my stacking AD Rune back.

The True Damage is something Riot added to make it appeal more to bruisers than tanks because they're supposed to beat tanks in extended fights (at least, this is what I recall them saying when it was first announced), but personally, I've never found it needed. The healing would be nice to keep it as a sustained combat rune, though.

Abibyama II2/11/2019, 3:56:19 PM3 votes

Because fuck tanks

emarythomp22/11/2019, 11:46:30 PM2 votes

Because tank items were so powercreeped that bruisers toplane were literally doing 0 damage to tanks. Remember when bruisers were going grasp early season 8 because PTA stopped doing damage to tanks by midgame? It was a serious problem. But I will admit that conquer is just a band aid really but it HAS to exist as long as tank items are this overtuned and inexpensive

Don't believe me?

Test it out in a practice game. Without conquer bruisers will get outtanked and outdamaged by tanks and the tank meta will return. At least it will for toplane.

Lovelle2/17/2019, 6:12:43 PM1 votes

Bruisers are supposed to be able to kill tanks. If they can't kill tanks then why pick them at all?