To all the newfound Iverns regardless of Jng Or Supp

Let me give you all a tip since it seems to be working a lot more reliably for me.

Just ignore W, don't put point in it. I personally love the idea of placing bushes, but there's just not enough of a reward to go ranged for a small AA empowerment like that. If you max your Q and E faster it leads to a bit more survivability and damage burst than wasting a point in W. Most of the time as a support there's really no need to go into range AA mode even to harass your Q is enough and E allows your adc to win more trades. While as a jungle placing bushes gets too obvious where you are, and there's more benifit to stay closer to your gank target than going ranged mode(Not to mention the ranged AAs don't feel too smooth).

I'm not saying I'm absolutely right, but try ignoring W for a day as you play ivern see if you're getting as possible of a result as I have in both roles.

I'm not pro but I feel W's most useful for the jungler to do sieging, sneak baron/dragon, and few champion bonus effects all of which have actual power later in the game. The only thing that it's good for early game are in-lane ganks by sneaking a member right through a lane, but that's not going to happen often unless premade nor is it anymore effective as just doing normal jungle ganks.

I again love the idea of placing bushes but I don't feel an AA enhancement for ivern is the right effect ivern should gain in addition to ivern's special bushes not giving bonuses to ivern's teammates(aside from in-kit ones) meaning they don't grant assist even if you empower special bush champs.

I would love feedback and thoughts on the matter from everyone. On a side note I'm mastery level 4, 18400 points. Loving ivern so far regardless of the dislike from occasional players.