Any Counters to Jax?

BattleMage130902·Feb 2, 2016·3 votes·1,834 views

Im not saying Jax is op or anything but I just need a way to counter sated devourer Jax jungle at a lower elo (Where I am now). If he's in the jungle, you can't really shut him down early on aside from counter-jungling but that's in my opinion just a way to stall him getting sated (He will reach it at some point in the game). He can be locked down by chained cc and exhaust, etc. but at this rank the teamwork in solo queue is not good enough to chain cc and stop him lategame, and I can't be expected to bring exhaust against him so our team has 2 exhausts to stop him because that creates the risk of losing lane because you have exhaust against a ranged ap champion or sacrificing teleport ganks from top. Any advice?

27 Comments

weeaboomerFeb 2, 20161 votes

Yeah, gather your entire team to camp his jungle 24/7, that way he doesn't get any stacks.

Critmaster GarenFeb 2, 20161 votes

malphite, nasus with frozen heart and randuins (be careful early on though), guess rammus with thornmail and a load of health/armor will work aswell.

weeaboomerFeb 2, 20161 votes

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malphite, nasus with frozen heart and randuins (be careful early on though), guess rammus with thornmail and a load of health/armor will work aswell.

Yeah full armor rush ignoring his 2 free lich banes + devourer damage + rageblade.

Critmaster GarenFeb 2, 20161 votes

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Yeah full armor rush ignoring his 2 free lich banes + devourer damage + rageblade.

armor and health.... youre suppsoed to cripple his attack speed as much as possible, so its possible to take him out before he deals too much damage.

by the way, ive beaten a mid/lategame jax on full armor malphite. its just earlyish its tricky.

ABlueQuakerFeb 2, 20162 votes

Attack Speed Reduction and Non-Basic Attack-Reliant Burst are most effective against Jax. Knock-ups/backs/asides are really good too as they can interrupt his Leap Strike and are non-reduceable forms of CC (Tenacity has no effect).

Just keep in mind you're playing against the clock when you're up against a Jax.

item 3111 item 3153 item 3124 item 3078 item 3110 item 3065

40% CDR Jax becomes makes the Attack Speed Reduction nigh pointless when he becomes this Ability-based - especially given the AA Reset on his W.

EDIT: Blue Ezreal is pretty damn effective against him after you get Muramana and IBG.

The Bíg TicketFeb 2, 20161 votes

Terrible Jax build rofl.

DorkunedAurasFeb 2, 20161 votes

You should basically never build 3 damage items on jax, if you build the right ones, he has plenty of damage to be scary. He needs tank from there to not die.

The Bíg TicketFeb 2, 20161 votes

Yes you definitely know better than me how to play Jax.

DorkunedAurasFeb 2, 20161 votes

I'm essentially agreeing with you, I meant to reply to the comment you did. No need for the super snarky response.

The Bíg TicketFeb 2, 20161 votes

My bad...meant to reply to another comment. Sorry!

Ek1 FiFeb 2, 20161 votes

I see lot of bullshit, little numbers. And I don't mean Your KDA or other useless stuff but why some other build would be better. If you can't ground your opinion, it holds as much value as a fart in the wind.

The Bíg TicketFeb 2, 20161 votes

Best Jax build is Rageblade, Gunblade, Triforce, Steraks, Ninja Tabi and 1 optional item (usually Banshees or Randuins).

Rageblade is the best item to rush because at max stacks it has insane gold value and allows to reach your strong point faster since it only costs 2800. Gunblade snyergyzes extremely well with Rageblade so it is a must buy after that. Triforce, albeit nerfed, is still very good on Jax and provides him with the stickiness he needs nowadays, also the Spellblade passive is extremely good on Jax. Steraks increases the damage of that passive even further and also allows Jax to aggressively go in teamfights where he usually would just die. Tabi are the best boots in the game atm.

This guy's build is shit, Bork is not worth it anymore, FH is just not good on Jax (he already gets like 300 armor, 20% cdr are useful but the rest of the stats are wasted) and BV is always better than SV.

Ek1 FiFeb 3, 20161 votes

So item 3124 item 3146 item 3078 item 3053 item 3047 and item 3102 or item 3143 .

On item 3124 I agree, it compliments Jax passive, specially if you got item 3931 with him and it offers area damage and combined with item 3146 it gives sustain that even Warwick will have hard time to beat.

Now saying that Jax needs Trinity force to be able to stick at enemies is sad. With proper CDR he has his Leap strike open ever 3,6 secs and if he has something like item 1320 the Furor procs as soon he jumps to enemy (single target spell).

item 3078 item 3053 combo is nice if you got the CDR to get most out of it. Without it you would do more damage with any sword as a alpha strike.

Its funny that you say item 3110 is crap but item 3047 are teh bestest there is when both items do the same thing, reduce auto attack DPS. Except FH offers that precious CDR and survivability when grandmaster's might is on CD. Why would Jax need help with basic attacks anyway? His kit offers games strongest auto attack reducer, counter strike. Instead of getting something Jax does not need maybe address the problem when Jax gets killed, that is when he gets CC'ed. item 3111 helps to get out of the situation faster.

Saying that "BV is always better than SV" means that you always play against same opponents or same game. If there is no CC, then there is nothing to save against and frankly, any skilled gamer procs the shield first.

Overall the build you represented relies heavily on having Grandmaster's might available. If it's not, the build is really paper and Jax gets simply deleted when getting hit by any kind of hard CC.

I see where your build aims but I'd go less ulti relying Jax. Specially when you don't have the CDR to have it available constantly.

KVbqbFsC8eFeb 2, 20161 votes

Nope, at least not when he get sated + guinsoos.

Dirty RoleplayerFeb 2, 20161 votes

Vladimir

I Might YasuoFeb 2, 20161 votes

Stay in fountain

ShonjlFeb 2, 20161 votes

Jax isn't even OP. Its just how broken item 3124 is and how well it works with him.

As soon as Riot actually becomes competent again(Wait, were they ever?) and tones down its numbers, Rageblade users will be more tamed. Til then you need your entire team to drop them.

The Bíg TicketFeb 2, 20161 votes

Almost any champion in the game, Jax is a trollpick at decent elo.

Well to be honest he is pretty strong as a jungler since he can farm for free as you already said but he is still very weak in teamfights. If you have any type of cc on your team it becomes really hard for him to keep up his Rageblade stacks which is a huge loss in damage. If you don't happen to have a Nasus, Malphite or Nunu in your team who can make him useless try to help your adc and apc kill him. Jax is not very tanky until lategame; his ult gives him alot of armor and MR but he most likely won't have any hp so he still dies fast, contrary to popular belief he can't actually 1v2 the adc and apc. Any champ with hard cc fucks him over as he only has 1 gapcloser and if you stun/snare/slow him during his E (or just avoid getting stunned by it) he is very vulnerable to counterattack. Supports like Karma, Thresh, Nautilus, Janna, etc...make it pretty much impossible for Jax to take out an adc in a teamfight.

Also you can just pick a strong earlygame jungler like Lee Sin or Elise and snowball every lane, once your team is winning and gets control of the enemy jungle it will become impossible for him to get any stacks.

legionnaire99Feb 2, 20161 votes

Lissandra stop him from hurting anyone Udyr let him try to 1v1 you ( if you good with him)

supermuffin28Feb 2, 20161 votes

I primarily play marksman, but I really don't mind him too much playing as lucian/blue ez/quinn into him.

Primarily Lucian or Quinn as I find ez laning phase kind of boring, but with these two it kinda comes down to out play mechanics. If you mess up, you lose.

Lucian is pretty self explanatory, but just in case: save dash for his leap, auto, w auto (movespeed buff for yourself) ult and kite backwards auto (passive here gives you another dash) - Rinse and repeat

I really REALLY enjoy playing quinn into him (rengar too for the same reason) - Blind OP AF against these two. They have targeted leaps, cant touch adc when you're blind and if you get close then she kicks off them (short cc and slow) then puts more distance between them. Weave in auto attacks in between (pretty similar to lucian) and you have solid burst since most of the game they're squishy.

I have a joke between my friends I queue with that quinn in the rengar hunter. If I see a rengar out solo I'll go hunt him down with Quinns ult. Then ult back for team fight and not have to worry about surprise rengar.

Anyway back on topic, jax's biggest thing is his stun+ 3 autos that you cant retaliate with, bait out the stun and his significantly easier to deal with.

Mecha MaIphiteFeb 2, 20161 votes

Malphite Nasus have built in AS slows, and slows in general. Malph also has hard CC, and Nasus can duel Jax if he has enough stacks.

XenomancersFeb 2, 20161 votes

Teemo Starve him early - then abuse mushrooms. Teemo makes jax his bitch.

QuephaFeb 2, 20161 votes

have your jungler put early pressure on every lane since you know jax will be doing nothing to help them.

Restless SlumberFeb 2, 20161 votes

My best champion to counter any sated rageblade users is Elise. She is my main champion and I almost always will pick her when I see a devourer jungler on the enemy team. How does she counter you may ask? She has innate tankiness, high burst, rappel makes you untargetable, and a 1.6 second stun at rank 1.

Lord OwlBearFeb 2, 20161 votes

easiest way to counter any jungler with sated is a warrior enchant jungler that counter jungles him... commonly they are stronger in the early game and can shut them down and make them lose valuable jungle farm hurting their mid/late games a lot..... just make sure your team knows what you're doing going in so they can help if you get stuck in a bad spot.