We still don't know why Sona is getting nerfed

RedCyclone··3 votes·411 views

All we got from the recent reds was "Because reasons"

they say they know she isn't pick or ban, that there are better supports out there and that she is easily countered but somehow, some of their analyzing tools say she is in need of nerfs

the only way I can see this being a reality, is because of her power in ARAM, but if Riot said they were nerfing her because of that it would cause a massive uproar of negativity

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Final GirI1 votes

RiotJag said in a different discussion

Anyway, let's talk about Sona for a bit. I can definitely appreciate the perspective that she isn't really crowding out support selection diversity. That said, we want to stay on top of the successes and shortcomings of all of our champion reworks, and we feel that some of Sona's gameplay patterns are not the most healthy experience for bot lane. Fighting Sona has a lot of strategic depth that you talk about (pick hard engage or burst characters like Leona to fight her), but we want counterplay to extend past champion select and still be relevant tactically (in lane). The MS change is intended to give enemies without extremely strong engagement capabilities a fair shot at fighting Sona, without exaggerating her weaknesses to hard engage that something like a base HP/armor adjustment would do. Understandably, Sona isn't perceived as particularly strong, given that she isn't being picked every game (especially in competitive play), and does not seem like she is taking over games that she is in. That said, we have a lot of tools and data we use for examining the game, and in addition to some of the play pattern issues I mentioned, we do feel that she is on the strong side for supports for a wide range of ELOs. Keep in mind, this is intended to be a pretty small nerf overall.

From this it is said that she has been strong, with the only way of countering her was picking a specific champion that counters her. It makes sense to give her a small nerf to make her Q poke a little less harmful, this way she can be countered not just by specific champions, but by outplaying her as well. Sona could easily just push Q and take out your health slowly but surely and then with Power chord just chunk you down and force you to back. This makes bot lane less of a nightmare while playing against her. This isn't a huge nerf, this is just bits and pieces to lower her overall scariness.

Drunk Rummate1 votes

she's an extremely oppressive laner....

she's basically an auto win in the laning phase. there's really nothing you can do to deny her 850 range Q trade and that's not even factoring her sustain and shield in (which conveniently prevents ignite/grievous wounds which you would think to counter her).

the typical "counter" to sona is to blow her up with an all in composition (like Leona). the problem is that between exhaust, heal summoner, and the shield on her heal preventing ignite from securing anything, all you do by all inning sona is get both sides poked really low at which point she sustains up and you're stuck with nothing but targon charges. furthermore she can just sit back at her oppressive 850 range and poke you for free if you pick a low range champion like leona, not to mention she can just dodge your zenith blade if she's careful.

she's still well over 50% winrate and doing better than most in soloqueue. champion definitely deserves being looked into.

RedCyclone1 votes

And Leona and Thesh are not extremely oppressive laners

Get slightly behind one of those supports and they practically own you in bottom lane

A Wild AP Sona1 votes

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she's an extremely oppressive laner....

she's basically an auto win in the laning phase. there's really nothing you can do to deny her 850 range Q trade and that's not even factoring her sustain and shield in (which conveniently prevents ignite/grievous wounds which you would think to counter her).

the typical "counter" to sona is to blow her up with an all in composition (like Leona). the problem is that between exhaust, heal summoner, and the shield on her heal preventing ignite from securing anything, all you do by all inning sona is get both sides poked really low at which point she sustains up and you're stuck with nothing but targon charges. furthermore she can just sit back at her oppressive 850 range and poke you for free if you pick a low range champion like leona, not to mention she can just dodge your zenith blade if she's careful.

she's still well over 50% winrate and doing better than most in soloqueue. champion definitely deserves being looked into.

its 700 range not 850 dont talk if you dont know what you are talking about

Hasztalan21 votes

We all know why she is getting nerfed, it's just Sona mains trying to play the dumb kids pretending that everything is fine when in fact She is not fine by any means.

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