Get rid of this PBE Tryndamere change, please.

LadyRenly·May 5, 2016·9 votes·1,392 views

Don't even consider it. Don't nerf to accomodate this, either. There is nothing wrong with possibly being left at 1 hp. Ignite is perfectly fair counterplay to his ult, too.

Just...why?

32 Comments

Critmaster GarenMay 5, 20164 votes

why is tryndamere being buffed in any shape or form?

his kit is broken and he needs a rework. he literally relies on rng to win his lane.

WinBoatMay 5, 20163 votes

Ignite doesn't even work on a good Tryn who will just Q and heal right back up preventing the ignite from killing him. That heal he gets is quite good.

His ult needs deleted honestly, and needs to be changed to something else.

I'm just gonna assume they lowered the duration of his ult? I'm hoping they did cause it lasted way too long.

Critmaster GarenMay 5, 20163 votes

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Ignite doesn't even work on a good Tryn who will just Q and heal right back up preventing the ignite from killing him. That heal he gets is quite good.

His ult needs deleted honestly, and needs to be changed to something else.

I'm just gonna assume they lowered the duration of his ult? I'm hoping they did cause it lasted way too long.

his ult isnt even the worst part of his kit. its his passive that gives him % crit chance from lvl 1 on.

he completely relies on some random crit at level 2 to win lane.

Lazypeon100May 5, 20162 votes

His ult timer appears to be completely unchanged.

JbelsMay 5, 20162 votes

Tryndamere and Aatrox, only Melee ADCs left in the game. Instead of reworks, let's buff the already broken ideas of their kits!

CritkeeperMay 5, 20161 votes

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Tryndamere and Aatrox, only Melee ADCs left in the game. Instead of reworks, let's buff the already broken ideas of their kits!

Yi is still a melee carry in the traditional sense, although he's seen better days.

JbelsMay 5, 20161 votes

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Yi is still a melee carry in the traditional sense, although he's seen better days.

Doesn't he just build a bunch of on-hit items now? I don't remember the last time I saw a Yi with infinity Edge

AlwaysByMySideMay 5, 20161 votes

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Doesn't he just build a bunch of on-hit items now? I don't remember the last time I saw a Yi with infinity Edge

Is Kog'maw not an adc because he doesn't build IE?

JbelsMay 5, 20161 votes

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Is Kog'maw not an adc because he doesn't build IE?

I think the term ADC has become a bit outdated, and Marksman seems like a good term, but it just doesn't account for the DPS champions who aren't technically marksmen, like Kog'maw XD

AlwaysByMySideMay 5, 20161 votes

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I think the term ADC has become a bit outdated, and Marksman seems like a good term, but it just doesn't account for the DPS champions who aren't technically marksmen, like Kog'maw XD

Kog'maw is a marksman.

JbelsMay 5, 20161 votes

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Kog'maw is a marksman.

No, I mean like the literal definition of the word, like someone who uses a ranged weapon to shoot people

VesarixxMay 5, 20161 votes

There are a lot more melee ADC than just those 2, also Aatrox has the kit of a bruiser with the stats of a melee ADC, which is why he kind of sucks as a champion.

Blue VanityMay 5, 20162 votes

30 health wtf. that's some random obscure number. 1hp is badass and risky as heck Don't change it. You've already ruined this game enough Riot leave trynd alone.

CritkeeperMay 5, 20161 votes

If you don't want him to be buffed, ask for a rework. If you don't want them to waste time reworking him when they could be reworking someone else, stop complaining. If you don't want him to be viable at all because you just plain don't like him, fuck off.

He's been garbage for 2 seasons and the only people that play him would play him even if he were Season 2 Evelyn tier. Just because the best Trynd players are able to overcome how shitty he is as a champion doesn't mean he isn't too weak for a buff.

Critmaster GarenMay 5, 20162 votes

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If you don't want him to be buffed, ask for a rework. If you don't want them to waste time reworking him when they could be reworking someone else, stop complaining. If you don't want him to be viable at all because you just plain don't like him, fuck off.

He's been garbage for 2 seasons and the only people that play him would play him even if he were Season 2 Evelyn tier. Just because the best Trynd players are able to overcome how shitty he is as a champion doesn't mean he isn't too weak for a buff.

hes been garbage since the game started.

and thats due to the design of his kit. i mean the only times when hes viable really is, when he does nothing but splitpushing and avoids any sort of fight, or the time when ap tryndamere cheese was a thing.

imo he should be top priority for a full rework.

everything about him just went completely wrong. from his lane pattern to his mid/lategame playstile it all doesnt make sense.

UnpaladinMay 5, 20161 votes

Wait, what do you mea-- oh god what the fuck

Riot have are testing this just to scare us, right? There's no way Riot got together and thought that a champion like TRYNDAMERE needs to be played more. Does they think his gameplay pattern is okay, then?

MotrColtMay 5, 20161 votes

Where are these changes everyone is talking about posted at?

Lazypeon100May 5, 20162 votes

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/05/55-pbe-update.html?m=1

A link for you my friend.

MotrColtMay 5, 20162 votes

thanks

Lazypeon100May 5, 20161 votes

Not a problem.

Ruin LanceMay 5, 20161 votes

someone link me to this please

Lazypeon100May 5, 20161 votes

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/05/55-pbe-update.html?m=1

There you go.

... I feel weird now, I've pretty much spammed the thread helping people out xD.

VesarixxMay 5, 20161 votes

It's definitely appreciated, honestly if people are going to make a post complaining about a PBE change they could at least link to it themselves.

agbudarMay 5, 20161 votes

link plz

Lazypeon100May 5, 20161 votes

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/05/55-pbe-update.html?m=1

There you go.

agbudarMay 5, 20161 votes

dang.. still not as bad as it could be. i guess now you need to stun him right at the end instead of just ignite him.

Lazypeon100May 5, 20161 votes

Ya, I really don't mind honestly. I do think they need to remove the RNG from his kit. It's not clear for either player when tryn is a threat or not, and often the fights are luck based which sucks.

agbudarMay 5, 20161 votes

they need to remove/rework crit as a mechanic but they are a long way away from that

VesarixxMay 5, 20161 votes

I'm wondering if this means trynd can't use his ult below 30 health

KyunseiMay 5, 20161 votes

I posted something about this too, funny fact another(s) come to life too.

Well, it basically change nothing from his kit, he'll die a bit less about DoT users, making him survives with an higher probability.

It also makes him lose a bit of AD under ultimate. The two together cancel.

What plot me more is : Where does this come from ? Last "big" changes he received was a bit more base ASPD and even before a nerf to his Spinning slash, was years ago.

Kyunsei

MunchCrunchLunchMay 6, 20161 votes

his winrate is 52%. lmao. how does he need this buff while there are sub 45% winrate champs. hes annoying as hell RNG champion that is designed to kill your nexus and not actually have any sort of interaction with his team or the enemy

PrayingForCritsMay 12, 20161 votes

Tryndamere needs a buff and this small one is what he needed. You guys are probably some bronze noobs who don't know how to deal with tryndamere. Tryndamere is really bad atm, out of meta anyways. Learn how to counter him.