Janna mid gets literally removed from the game for waveclearing with q without interacting

koshkyra·Aug 29, 2018·5 votes·1,085 views

But is fine?

What's this double standard?

13 Comments

ZephyrDrakeAug 29, 20187 votes

I didn't knew that Ekko could only waveclear and did pretty much nothing more. I also didn't knew that Ekko could waveclear an entire wave by simply pressing Q from his turret without ever being near the minion wave making it completely impossible for the enemy to do anything to him

Fízz v2Aug 29, 20182 votes

I didn't knew that Ekko could only waveclear and did pretty much nothing more.

yeah he can brainlessly wave clear AND oneshot you at 1 item, I dont see how that makes it better tho lul

also ekko has a dash and his ult, so its pretty impossible to do anything to him just spamming q

D357R0Y3RAug 29, 20184 votes

Ekko in no way can waveclear with only one Q do the math yourself, or you know play ekko one or two game to see that he can't kill 6 minions with a single Q

Also an ekko that is only going to clear waves with Q is likely going to lose lane because he uses his only tool to trade and lose pressure by putting his Q on cd

Fízz v2Aug 29, 20181 votes

Oneshotting caster minions from range is enough tho. which he can do at level 7 with enough AP, or at level 9. And what is he even gonna lose lane to when he just sits back and throws Qs out anyway?

D357R0Y3RAug 29, 20183 votes

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Oneshotting caster minions from range is enough tho. which he can do at level 7 with enough AP, or at level 9.

Old janna could waveclear with one Q starting at lvl or 7, caster minions AND melee minions at the same time without even being near the minions

by your post, you just admited that ekko can't waveclear with only one Q he needs to apply one hit on every single melee, and during this time he's vulnerable

Fízz v2Aug 29, 20181 votes

didnt know a champ could ever oneshot a whole wave with a basic ranged spell, thats obviously the most broken thing ever (but im pretty sure melee minions got buffed since then, so she probably couldnt do it today).

but ekko can still just wait 4 seconds for a second Q once the first one returned. And having to auto attack melee minions once isnt the biggest drawback since ekko isnt a very vulnerable champ (can dash to dodge engages like Syndra QE or Lux Q, has ult, and can build item 3152 item 3111 so he is too tanky to kill anyway).

D357R0Y3RAug 29, 20181 votes

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but ekko can still just wait 4 seconds for a second Q once the first one returned.

he definitly can but then unlike other mages he used 180 mana to clear a wave, and also doesn't build mana sustain (tear and lost chapter)

and his Q has a cast time leaving him vulnerable to mages's poke that have no cast time like ori Q syndra Q taliyah Q ect... or things that have a cast time like vel'koz Q but have way more range

ZephyrDrakeAug 29, 20184 votes

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yeah he can brainlessly wave clear AND oneshot you at 1 item, I dont see how that makes it better tho lul

also ekko has a dash and his ult, so its pretty impossible to do anything to him just spamming q

when Ekko is actually able to do that you can come and say that again

InfernapeAug 29, 20181 votes

The only time Ekko can truly oneshot you is if you're stupid enough to take a Chronobreak to the face. Even then he needs a couple of items to do that.

ParoeAug 29, 20181 votes

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The only time Ekko can truly oneshot you is if you're stupid enough to take a Chronobreak to the face. Even then he needs a couple of items to do that.

Thats... Not really true at all because an Ekko with item 3092 item 3100 item 3020 and item 1026 can delete a squishy of the same level. Hes got a TON of damage and most certainly oneshot... But only champions. He can clear the backline of minions with his Q (used to be able to clear both with M-pen runes), and then basic each melee minion once. Its still very uninteractive and he pushes as fast anivia or zed.