There has to be a Tenacity Nerf incoming..... I can Smell it.

Azadethe·Jan 31, 2018·2 votes·517 views

So..... just did my first Legend: Tenacity + Unflinching Udyr on Grasp of the Undying.....

Results smelled exactly like Zephyr of the old days:

Udyr going in, relatively immune to cc, and just dominating the map.

The build is a little different, but I had 466 AD, healed about 10% of my HP per hit, had 68% Tenacity, and ran about 650 MS in bursts. Felt like I was smurfing the crap out of a . If they were caught out, everyone of them was done. At some point, I even began smurfing up the , who fully expected to destroy me on taunt. And no. I wasn't Phoenix. I was Tiger. Deleting a Rammus.

The good ole Udyr days are back.

(I'm gonna have to practice until I can get a 36/0 game again).

18 Comments

HåppyJan 31, 20183 votes

"i even began smurfing up.."

..smurfing is a DOING word now? how do you smurf someone

AzadetheJan 31, 20181 votes

HåppyJan 31, 20181 votes

p-please answer me, the kids are scared

AzadetheJan 31, 20181 votes

Explain the question o.O

I spent a lot of time back in Season 4 learning Udyr from Trick2G disciples who were smurfing through mid elos. I got to a point where I was hypercarry with him even when he wasn't the meta.

HåppyJan 31, 20181 votes

you can't.. "smurf" people. that's not how the saying goes. you say "im smurfing" as a joke when you make a really good play

Kinkou OrderJan 31, 20182 votes

I remember the days when Irelia would get 50%+ tenacity all the time.

Then they basically deleted her passive.

FireDrizzleJan 31, 20182 votes

Tencacity is basically useless some matches. They can reduce % tencacity available if they stop half the cc ignoring it.

AzadetheJan 31, 20181 votes

Tenacity is NEVER worthless unless the only cc in the entire match is Knockup....

FireDrizzleJan 31, 20182 votes

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Tenacity is NEVER worthless unless the only cc in the entire match is Knockup....

If the enemies only magic damage was a warwick or nami I would say mr is worthless all thoguh not literraly true. Tenacity is useful vs slows sometimes but vs permaslows item 3022 or in 5v5 its worthless vs slows. Try this some matches and see if it doesnt feel worthlless ever.

AzadetheJan 31, 20181 votes

item 3022 Depends on how high your tenacity is, and if you have speeding abilities. Someone like Udyr won't get stopped by a Frozen Mallet, especially if he has extra sources of tenacity, because his speed boosts put him on the edge of an auto attack on the first reapply and out of range before the second.

EedatJan 31, 20182 votes

Tenacity stacks multiplicitively, not additively

AzadetheJan 31, 20181 votes

Actually it's both. Sources of Tenacity = Multiplicatively. Skills of Tenacity = Additive.

You underestimate how many sources of Tenacity there are.

FatedSaviourJan 31, 20181 votes

uuh, he means for calculations, so if you have 20% tenacity from a single rune, and 30% from boots, you have 70% cc overall from boots, and then 56% cc taken overall because not additive, multiplicitively

AzadetheJan 31, 20181 votes

I had 2 runes, Mercs, and could also get Sterak's and iron Elixir.

Here's what that becomes:

1- (1-.2)X(1-.2)X(1-.3) = 55.2% raw Tenacity.

If you add Steraks, Unflinching's temporary bonus, and Iron Elixir, it's up to 80.02% Tenacity Udyr.

I know how tenacity works. I don't even know why this conversation was started.

FatedSaviourJan 31, 20181 votes

i just forgot about steraks and iron elixir, but also dont forget that you only get the steraks tenacity for only like 5 seconds after the sheild pops, and i also didnt think about the temp bonus of unflinching

z63XnLCMwXJan 31, 20181 votes

Isn't tenacity capped out at 40% or something?

Kinkou OrderJan 31, 20181 votes

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Isn't tenacity capped out at 40% or something?

No.

There was a point in time when Irelia could get something like 90% with elixer of Iron, Merc treads, her passive and a mastery.

z63XnLCMwXJan 31, 20181 votes

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No.

There was a point in time when Irelia could get something like 90% with elixer of Iron, Merc treads, her passive and a mastery.

That's pretty rad. I've been here since s2 and never knew you could stack tenacity. I thought the most you can get was from treads so I never bothered with zephyr.