You guys said you balance around diamond.

Drunken Yasuo·Sep 2, 2015·20 votes·2,249 views

I havent seen anybody in this forum above diamond crying about devourer beeing overpowered.

The item has clear counterplay and isnt dominant in high elo because people arent as stupid as lower elo junglers and let the devourer jungler free farm.

You made this item even worse in high elo than it was before because of these crying silver 5 players who dont step a foot in the enemy jungle but cry when the jungler is sated after 17 minutes of farming.

i read that you said you balance around diamond and there is no complaint from anyone diamond because diamonds know the clear counterplay to devourer.

Fun Fact: have you seen a devourer jungler in the LCS winning? me neither.

downvotes from angry bronze kids inc

44 Comments

Dr PoroSep 2, 201514 votes

I'm Diamond and I think it's overpowered. Especially if you compare it with Warrior, which should get a buff/rework. But you can't ignore the top winrate junglers in plat+ being dominated by devourer. (BTW their balance is based on info from plat+, not diamond+)

DrMedSchmierpoSep 2, 20156 votes

thats maybe because warrior is beeing weak and devourer looks stronger in comparison.

IceKingChernobogSep 3, 20151 votes

dont forget it's cost efficient upon purchase

XonraSep 2, 201511 votes

I've seen a few, yes. Granted people with the kind of attitude you have are far worse to this game than any item Riot could implement.

I feel sorry for people like you, feeling the need to insult people and feel the need to insult people lower rank.

You are one of those people that likely do the same real life, but you'll find in a few years you'll still be sitting at your computer with a gut and some doritos thinking your Diamond Elo is "awesome" while those "bronze kids" are getting jobs because they care about more than just their ranking in a video game.

Feel free to make your "lawl low elo" or your "lol get gud" or whatever sad comebacks you guys say when you have no actual response.

Enjoy your elo while I enjoy the real world. :D

Drunken YasuoSep 2, 20158 votes

damn i was right with the downvotes from angry bronze kids

XonraSep 2, 20159 votes

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damn i was right with the downvotes from angry bronze kids

Not in bronze, but thanks for proving my point lol

Drunken YasuoSep 2, 20157 votes

low silver is bronze lmao, same retarded playstyle

XonraSep 2, 201510 votes

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low silver is bronze lmao, same retarded playstyle

Ah, you must be about 14 or 15. No wonder you act all salty.

Drunken YasuoSep 2, 20156 votes

feels good to have a lower IQ than a "14-15 year old" amirite

XonraSep 2, 201512 votes

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feels good to have a lower IQ than a "14-15 year old" amirite

Damn, sad and angry. Poor guy.

Dunkrius2gSep 3, 20151 votes

Xonra, This guy is just drunk right now. Let him be.

RebonackSep 2, 20156 votes

When I first saw the nerf mentioned, I thought Riot was going the route of moderation.

Oh, it only takes 20 stacks now but evolves sooner? Cool, that'll be a nerf to its damage in lower Elos and a buff to its completion time in higher, which is what makes it weaker there. Good job Riot!

But nope, it's just getting its damage reduced.

disregardableSep 2, 20155 votes

It didn't get nerfed? They also said they balance around Platinum and above, not just Diamond.

Deep Terror NamiSep 2, 20153 votes

They have a slight nerf lined up on the PBE.

Drunken YasuoSep 2, 20154 votes

"slight" thats a 33% damage nerf per stack

5000000000000000Sep 3, 20153 votes

Damage of Devourer junglers come from BoRK and on-hit effects in their kits. -10 on-hit magic damage is close to nothing still. It's an early game nerf and technically mid-late game nerf, but mid-late game power isn't really touched.

BârdSep 3, 20151 votes

Its more than the famous "5 AD" nerfs,

but not by much

Drunken YasuoSep 2, 20154 votes

Enchantment: Devourer Damage on hit per stack lowered to .67 from 1]

Enchantment: Sated Devourer Magic damage on hit lowered to 50 from 60.

AtheosisXSep 2, 20155 votes

Yes, let me step into Shyvana's jungle and get my face ripped off. Sounds like a plan...

Drunken YasuoSep 2, 20151 votes

youre silver 4 you dont have the requirements to say anything about balance.

AtheosisXSep 2, 20157 votes

I'll say whatever the fuck I want you tool. And I guess you can't tell the difference between a 4 and a 2 either...

A Miss FortuneSep 3, 20152 votes

The fact we can get to Silver 2 alone should validate any opinion we have on balance lol.

I think this guy is just trolling as he posts on the Boards often but I normally don't see him acting like this?

Even if he does just ignore him.

I quit Ranked after I hit level 30 and did terribly and came back a few months later into Ranked and I ended up having a 73% - 81% win rate SINCE I came back. I'm Silver against people who were almost exclusively low Gold - high Plat and still had an extremely high win rate. League's ranking system is terrible and it doesn't really represent your skill in a lot of cases. For all he knows you could be a Challenger tier player but your games could have been plagued with trolls and AFK'ers like I have unfortunately been constantly having (AD Heimer Jungle doesn't work).

#silverlife

AtheosisXSep 3, 20153 votes

Nah I'm mediocre as a player, though steadily improving. That said, how good you are at the game and how well you understand the balance of the game are two different things.

For instance I understand that counter-jungling a Devourer jungle may not be nearly as easy as this guy makes it out to be. Some Devourer junglers are not that weak early, and if you picked your jungler before the enemy did you may well not have a good counter-jungler, in which case you'll likely get yourself in trouble if you try to go into the enemy jungle a lot. The way people try to make everything sound so easy and cut and dry in this game never ceases to amuse.

A Miss FortuneSep 3, 20151 votes

I don't even think counterjungling Devourer is logical in most cases when you could be putting effort into shutting down other lanes? They WILL get Sated eventually and even then just counterjungling isn't always going to be effective since they get stacks off Kills/Assists and a lot of champions like Xin Zhao aren't a joke if you ever get caught in a 1v1 with them early game. It potentially can propel them forward to getting Sated which isn't a risk I'm willing to take with a lot of common Sated Junglers.

AtheosisXSep 3, 20151 votes

Yeah that's the better way to counter it, but again, it's easier said than done. I mean ultimately the enemy team can always just play a little safer while their jungler farms up. Unless you can roll them early or have lots of late game scaling on your team that Devourer jungler is just a ticking time bomb many times.

MohawkBirdSep 3, 20153 votes

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AtheosisXSep 3, 20152 votes

Yeah I'm aware. I just don't give a shit.

Snake TownSep 3, 20151 votes

weird how your match history shows you spamming shyvana jungle... but devourer's not good?

MrWasjigSep 3, 20151 votes

Using Rank is a weak excuse to exclude people from conversation and discussion. By using it you're pretty much enacting classism. You're Diamond, that's great, good for you. Just don't be a dick about it and act like you're above your fellow man. Because that's just fucking petty.

Snake TownSep 3, 20154 votes

[{quoted}](name=Drunken Yasuo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Idiy3yJg,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-09-02T22:31:49.531+0000) Fun Fact: have you seen a devourer jungler in the LCS winning? me neither.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_lx3tGlbao

there ya go

FadedpfSep 2, 20153 votes

So why the actual fuck do you care if you are a diamond overlord.

Drunken YasuoSep 2, 20152 votes

because i play with and against devourer junglers in my elo and actually know the strenghs and weaknesses of this item but riot listens to low elo apperently

FadedpfSep 2, 20154 votes

If an item is over tuned then it is over tuned. I highly doubt Riot nerfed it because it stomps in low elo. It is good no matter what Elo, If you can get early scuttles and a dragon you basically become a unbeatable monster with sated. Your whole elo argument is wrong.

Slamurai JackSep 2, 20153 votes

I don't think Sated Devourer is OP as is, but I also don't think this nerf will make that big of a difference. All it will really serve to do is make a Devourer junglers dueling slightly weaker, especially pre-sated. They're still going to wreck most people 1v1 then. It's still going to be far stronger than Devourer before Sated was.

Wînter FoxSep 2, 20152 votes

While I agree in general, what nerf are you talking about?

Drunken YasuoSep 2, 20154 votes

Enchantment: Devourer Damage on hit per stack lowered to .67 from 1]

Enchantment: Sated Devourer Magic damage on hit lowered to 50 from 60.

DecritSep 2, 20152 votes

They said they take in consideration low elos too, it would be shit to play a game that does not consider that right?

Let' s not glorify competitive as the only meaning of the game, even if plat/dia is a good target for a variety of reasons. Also i agree that devourer is not broken as it seems, but i would gave touches to it too. Not nerfs, rather power shifts because it gives too much in a single item IMHO.

Drunken YasuoSep 2, 20153 votes

why consider low elos too? they play the game "wrong" so why should you reward them with balancing the game around them?

AtheosisXSep 2, 20155 votes

Everyone plays the game wrong other than pros. So let's just balance for the pros, am I right?

DecritSep 3, 20151 votes

even tought at low elos the difference between champions is way more dictated by skill than by champion itself, if there is a good stomping pick both for high elo and low elo then the matter is serious for the game quality.

I mean, at least master yi can stomp low elo but is not that OP, and you mcan manage a way lo learn to fight it quite simply

MrWasjigSep 3, 20151 votes

Poor play =/= Wrong To say everyone in low elo is outright bad is a sweeping statement. Some people may simply not have the time to grind YoloQ for 12 hours a day like some other players, because the ones who don't have 12 hours to grind probably have a job.

JavelinJoeSep 3, 20151 votes

As a bronze player i don't think it is broken. It can be easily countered if you know how to. What is possibly the issue here is that the on-hit effects make it seem broken to a lot of people because they don't realize the damage isn't from sated devour itself but from the other items in said jungler's inventory. I usually hate it when they have a sated Kayle in the jungle because she is difficult to counter build against if she goes for a predominantly on-hit build. Although if done correctly she can be neutralized before she even gets sated with counter jungling harass due to her weak early game (pre 6).