Can we revert Thornmail?

LatetotheRace·Mar 10, 2019·2 votes·971 views

But keep the grievous wounds? The reflect damage is just so pathetic and useless now. Please? This isn't even what we asked for to begin with.

6 Comments

DuskDaUmbreonMar 10, 20192 votes

Maybe because the on-hit damage was only ever meant to counteract lifesteal in the first place?

LatetotheRaceMar 10, 20191 votes

Well now it doesn't even come close.

DuskDaUmbreonMar 10, 20193 votes

...Yes, because there's GW on it now.

Remember - "Counteract" and "Negate entirely" are not synonymous.

LatetotheRaceMar 11, 20191 votes

Keep in mind that sustain is substantially more prevalent especially on fighters now. So it was a further mute change overall.

Inkling CommandoMar 10, 20191 votes

item 3075 by itself is useless. you need other armor items to make it good. with only it the reflect damage is 33. but add on say a item 3068 that is 39 damage on top of the 25+lvl fire damage. then say you go for item 3047 and the reflect damage is 41. while taking 12% less from basic attacks. and finally item 3110 in addition to 400 mana so you wont run dry and 20% CDR you get 100 armor. highest in any item. tack that to the stack and you have 51 reflect damage, 25+ fire damage, and grievance wounds. and with all that armor you are taking at least 50% less damage from physical damage. so to shorten it, item 3075 by itself is useless. you need other items to make it work.

LatetotheRaceMar 10, 20191 votes

Fuck thornmails worthless.

Even without grievious wounds, old thornmail used to do "15% reflect + 25% bonus armor" so 15% + 75~ damage back per hit. Christ it's worthless now.

Even with large amounts of armor, you may as well build deadman's that way you can run away faster from the fighter that's about to eat your ass through whatever armor you built regardless. Turns out mass amounts of true damage, and items like item 3071 item 3134 varients just don't fucking care anymore. And forget about conqueror, then you're completely useless.

Playing tanks against anything with an item and a half is so painful now. Armor is worthless unless you have 800+. At least with some okay reflect damage it would actually help... ffs