Gangplank hybrid build -- I do it because I enjoy my self, but...?

Rito Staff··1 votes·651 views

Guys, all you're about is to be taken with a grain of sugar and pepper, delicious I know. It's me just having fun, after some stressful rankeds (FFS THE MOTHERFCKER JUST COULDN'T STOP FEEDING), I've been building Gangplank as follows,

item 3093(more and faster gold income) then item 3031

After IE, I build Liandry's and by that time I have enought Silver Serpents for Fire At Will (increased rate of fire). Then I upgrade the avarice to statik, after that I go full AP.

item 3087 item 3031 item 3151 item 3089 item 3157 item 3158

It serves the purpose of bait GP and it covers teamfights. Barrel and Q blows squishies to <=50%.

In this mindset, of building uselessness and retardation, is it that bad? :c

7 Comments

AtheosisX1 votes

That's a pretty weird build, but if you enjoy it good for you. As far as your question of whether it's that bad, I'd say it probably is, mainly because of the complete lack of synergy between your AD and AP items as well as the the fact that you seem to building purely to nuke people with your ult which is up too infrequently to really help you win games.

Elkington1 votes

Forget building all that damage. You need to be tanky if you want to do anything with GP mid-late game. He's an immobile melee that scales well with flat AD, plus his new W is a %hp heal, which is much better with tankier builds.

Build him like Darius or J4.

AtheosisX1 votes

I have no idea why you are responding to my post with this.

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

almost every build is viable if you have 6 items completed, but because games are decided by 1 and 2 items, a gangplank with IE + liandrys is simply much worse than a gangplank with trinity + IE/FH and a gangplank with trinity only is much better than one with IE only.

other than that, sure you can build whatever you want as long as it serves some purpose. im not sure what purpose the AP serves except the zhonyas for baiting if that was required that game.

Rito Staff1 votes

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almost every build is viable if you have 6 items completed, but because games are decided by 1 and 2 items, a gangplank with IE + liandrys is simply much worse than a gangplank with trinity + IE/FH and a gangplank with trinity only is much better than one with IE only.

other than that, sure you can build whatever you want as long as it serves some purpose. im not sure what purpose the AP serves except the zhonyas for baiting if that was required that game.

I see ye =P

his ultimate scales off AP and it slows. A liandry's synergizes with it as it burns down the whole team in a teamfight for 4% current HP, if used properly, sure the squishies will step out but tanks will melt + rate of fire you'll be getting damage quicker

I've got commentaries like "omg that damage" and in the last match, my total damage compared to a 17-8? master yi it was the same.

I'll be playing it out more anyways and see how it goes

67chrome1 votes

In this mindset, of building uselessness and retardation, is it that bad? :c

Weeeell

The main issue with hybrid itemization is this:

All physical stats scale one-another exponentially. AD multiplies AS which are both multiplied by Crit which are all multiplied by armor penetration which all effect how much healing life steal offers.

Most magical stats also scale one-another exponentially, albiet to a lesser extent. Rabadon's bonus multiplies your AP which are both used on Lich Bane which are all multiplied by magic penetration...

However, physical stats don't scale the power of magical stats and vice-versa. Adding AP and AD together simply adds some magic damage on to your physical damage.

It's largely an issue of: 2x2x2x2 = 16 vs. 2x2+2x2 = 8

So, hybrid builds generally kill your late-game scaling.


There's only 2 reasons to really persue hybrid items:

item 3078 1) hybrid items are often more cost-efficient than there pure-physical or pure-magical counterparts in a vacum to offset the fact pure physical or pure magical builds have a much better efficiency late-game. So, if you have hybrid scaling you can make use of, and want to pump your early game power: grabbing 1 hybrid item isn't a bad way to start out.

Ezreal Corki Akali Katarina Kayle often go this route, but it's worth noting pure-physical or pure-magical paths have better end-game scaling, hybrid paths have a really bleak end-game, and such champions quickly switch to a pure-physical or pure-magical build after a single hybrid item. It's also worth noting, particularly in the case of Ezreal Corki , that going a hybrid item first does make their late-game much weaker than if they went a standard ADC route of item 3031 item 3087 item 3035



item 3091 2) You're playing a tanky DPS champion that can only afford to get 1 major damage item in the first place. As previously mentioned, hybrid damage items tend to be more cost-effective by themselves than pure physical or pure magical items in terms of raw power.

And hey - defense technically scales the power of offense, seeing as the longer you live the more damage you get to deal. Again though, you're only getting 1 hybrid damage item on a wide range of tanky DPS champions while shoring up the rest of their build with defense.

Anyways, if you enjoy making use of AP and AD scaling and you can make it work, go for it. LoL lets you run with any item, any rune, any mastery point, any lane, and any combination there-of. Experimenting is clearly part of the game.

The build you listed just isn't optimal if you want any champion to be as powerful as they can be.

Hasztalan21 votes

How to build new gangplank: repick him. Simple as that.

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