Teemo; a Small Update

Stacona·Mar 23, 2016·2 votes·397 views

Before I get started I want to define a marksman in League of Legends terms: A marksman is a ranged attacker that primarily does its damage through basic attacks providing a source of sustain damage to kill tanks and bruisers.

Do want to point out that damage type and the stat built (attack damage or ability power) is NOT what defines a marksman, but they will build attack speed (and possibility of critical strike chance) along their main stat.

Anyways, to my ideas:

Basic Attack Range: 525 from 500 units

Toxic Shots (E): On-hit damage to 10/15/20/25/30(+35%AP) from 10/20/30/40/50(+30%AP) magic damage on-hit, can now critically strike (poison damage unchanged).

This tones back Teemo's early game to make his late game slightly stronger. In results, makes him less of a solo laner and more in the duo lane making him the damage dealer he is and meant to be (not was or should be, but IS, present tense).

11 Comments

SlyTactician Mar 23, 20163 votes

Teemo definitely does need an identity since his mushroom nerf last year.

It would make more sense considering that he is a marksman as well. Though if not, I would rather see him reworked as a jungler. His passive makes so much more sense that way.

JayHog1992Mar 23, 20161 votes

Would love that being his main. And since Corki is mix damage of AD and AP, I don't see why a Full AP Teemo can't work.

Heck! Before the marksman update, I got to level 5 Teemo by playing him botlane, it worked well untill they increased the AP item's prices and lowered AD's.

This also means that the bot lane enemy also has to itemize properly.

StaconaMar 23, 20161 votes

It wouldn't be full AP since crit attack speed items dont have AP, but you can go gunblade, nashor's tooth, runaan's hurricane, etc maybe some more AP items thrown in or more zeal items. Gunblade definitely opens up AP marksmen with how the sustain works now so Riot can upset the meta easily Teemo is the easiest to do that in the short term, you can do a big gameplay changes to Kayle so she is always ranged and make changes for she is less toxic for game at the same time, and then can add new champions dedicated to be ability power marksmen.

Times have changed and we can make new things work, we no longer have to have AD marksmen only anymore.

The Teemo changes definitely favour a marksman playstyle with shroom scouting and a more fluid passive; he can kite extremely well with is absurd base attack speed and even AS per level on top of have AS bonus in his kit and move quick and slows on mushrooms; also he can stay alive against a diver with his blind (also resets his basic attack timer). So when people say Teemo is not a marksman they clearly have 0 clue of what a marksman is and suppose to be.

JayHog1992Mar 23, 20161 votes

Yep, would make items like Runnan's and Rapid Fire cannon useful on him due to his short AA range.

Problem would be his mana for the shrooms. You pop 3 shrooms late game with no mana items and you're already less than half set.

This means that an option is getting item 3508 , or any of the mana items for mages, but Teemo needs damage to work.

I hope the new mage update brings out better CDR ways with AP items or so.

StaconaMar 23, 20161 votes

Teemo can buy Nashor's Tooth so he has no problems with CDR and he doesn't struggle with Mana

the update I increased his range slightly, the full 550 might be too much, but probably not, either way he does still have really strong kiting and attack speed so these are more important for late game damage dealing than slightly more range

JayHog1992Mar 23, 20161 votes

But he does struggle with mana a bit. I never get nashor's for Teemo because I want lots of shrooms, but not run out of mana after each team fight and forced to back after every battle.

Sometimes I buy item 3070 to compensate for that.

StaconaMar 23, 20161 votes

morellos and the mana regen mastery should be more than enough for teemo - for AD teemo i guess you could buy essence reaver if you really want (but attack speed to go with his high base attack speed and on hits are his best damage output)

JayHog1992Mar 23, 20161 votes

Morello's is nice, but like athen's, not a great ammount of AP to follow up. With your low ap scalings, going full AP is problably the better call sometimes.

StaconaMar 23, 20161 votes

Teemo has strong AP ratios

JayHog1992Mar 23, 20161 votes

Late game, they're gonna build tons of MR or at least enough to stop you from instakilling them, so his ap ratios aren't as strong as you think.