Why is Riven considered healthy but Darius isn't?

IsIsGankedParis··4 votes·833 views

Honest question, I'm told Darius invalidates you if you get in range of him no matter what if you're melee.

I'm told Riven is easy to outplay if she gets in range of you and she can't "burst" as hard and fast as Darius.

Can someone please explain this shit to me? I'm confused as fuck right now.

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Yutaji1 votes

I've never once in my entire 3 1/2 years of this game heard anyone say this at all.

IsIsGankedParis2 votes

I'm arguing with my friend that Darius isn't better than Riven and that she outdamages and outscales him at all points of the game.

He's telling me Riven is a healthy champion that loses to Darius all the time because he has a lot of damage and Riven can't do much to him.

He also apparently can "facetank" 3 enhanced Riven autos, all of her Q strikes, her W, while her ult is on, and the windslash, when all Darius has is a Randuins and she has Ravenous Hydra.

Please help me get sense into him, he's Diamond 2 and mains the mid lane, he doesn't Riven often and says these Darius buffs will make him broken again.

Yutaji1 votes

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I'm arguing with my friend that Darius isn't better than Riven and that she outdamages and outscales him at all points of the game.

He's telling me Riven is a healthy champion that loses to Darius all the time because he has a lot of damage and Riven can't do much to him.

He also apparently can "facetank" 3 enhanced Riven autos, all of her Q strikes, her W, while her ult is on, and the windslash, when all Darius has is a Randuins and she has Ravenous Hydra.

Please help me get sense into him, he's Diamond 2 and mains the mid lane, he doesn't Riven often and says these Darius buffs will make him broken again.

Your friend is an idiot simply put if he believes truly that Riven is healthy. No she isn't OP, but she is not healthy. These changes are to make Darius relevant in the late game. They do nothing for his early and mid-game. Darius falls off EXTREMELY hard late game.

Darius is an immobile bruiser/tank who can be kited all day long and if he builds full tank becomes 100% worthless.

If your friend is diamond 2 and thinks Darius is a problem then he bought his account or has had it boosted without you knowing. Darius is one of the hardest champions to succeed with in higher elo because people actually know how to play.

TheI3igDaddy1 votes

"Riven" and "healthy" shouldn't be in the same sentence unless "isn't" is between them. She's the epitome of 'get fed or get fucked' (or she shares this title with Fiora, Katarina, and a few other pubstompers) and has disgusting amounts of damage and mobility.

Darius is one of the few top laners who can get in Riven's face and trade equally with her, or come out ahead.

I'm not sure which champs your friend plays, but he probably thinks Riven is healthy because she's melee and he plays ranged mid laners. Riven will naturally struggle against ranged champs since she needs to sacrifice a Q charge or two to close the distance.

D1rtFarmer1 votes

she should be playing by everybody elses rules.

DropFill1 votes

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I'm arguing with my friend that Darius isn't better than Riven and that she outdamages and outscales him at all points of the game.

He's telling me Riven is a healthy champion that loses to Darius all the time because he has a lot of damage and Riven can't do much to him.

He also apparently can "facetank" 3 enhanced Riven autos, all of her Q strikes, her W, while her ult is on, and the windslash, when all Darius has is a Randuins and she has Ravenous Hydra.

Please help me get sense into him, he's Diamond 2 and mains the mid lane, he doesn't Riven often and says these Darius buffs will make him broken again.

You are totally right. Darius is trash. Every single decent main riven can shitty on darius.

insaiyanbacca1 votes

i still think its the other way around but whatever

usul12021 votes

Because darius can't jump walls or gap close on you multiple times over the course of a trade. Darius is slow and relies on you being in range of him. running from a darius without a grab is FAR easier than running from a riven after any one or two of her abilities is off.

Darius is easier to play safe against, more or less.

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