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Adc's are out of control

Moonfall Saber··5 votes·479 views

item 3031 <<< theres the problem.

I think crit as a whole needs to be reworked

maybe crits deal 100% damage plus 150% base AD Then infinity edge makes crits deal 50% more damage

Current Crit Damage: 40 base AD+ 60 AD = 200 damage ( not including armor) Current item 3031 40 base AD+ 60 AD = 250 damage (not including armor) Reworked Crit Formula: 40 base AD+ 60 AD = 160 damage (not including armor) Reworked Formula with item 3031 : 40 base AD+ 60 AD = 240 (not including armor)

Lets see what it would like with higher AD

Current Crit Damage: 80 base AD+ 120 AD = 400 damage ( not including armor) Current item 3031 80 base AD+ 120 AD = 500 damage (not including armor) Reworked Crit Formula: 80 base AD+ 120 AD = 320 damage (not including armor) Reworked Formula with item 3031 : 80 base AD+ 120 AD = 480 (not including armor)

EVEN HIGHER AD

Current Crit Damage: 120 base AD+ 180 AD = 600 damage ( not including armor) Current item 3031 120 base AD+ 180 AD = 750 damage (not including armor) Reworked Crit Formula: 120 base AD+ 180 AD = 480 damage (not including armor) Reworked Formula with item 3031 : 120 base AD+ 180 AD = 720 (not including armor)

See what happens here. Crits deal less damage and then infinity edge is a HUGE damage spike. However over all it is a small nerf.

14 Comments

Lil Homie busta1 votes

I can understand your frustration over high crit hits, but we already have randuin and tabi. And if you're a support or mage that's getting basic attacked in late~mid game by a ADC or melee carry, i think something may be wrong with your positioning

Moonfall Saber1 votes

Leona Alistar Braum dont have that much gold to build item 3143 now what?

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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Leona Alistar Braum dont have that much gold to build item 3143 now what?

they are supports, literally none of them should be eating an enemy ADCs autos unless they are trying to engage in which case they should just move in a decisive matter to make the enemy ADC actually back away. Also supports can build Randuin's if they wanted to, it just take a very specific enemy teamcomp for them to find it useful

xkillertenzo1 votes

ADCS can easily be one shotted

Taylorwill1 votes

item 3046 item 3026 item 3812 item 3072 can they?

xkillertenzo1 votes

Yes especially in Silver and Gold ELO they can. Not everyone is a Gosu or Imaqtipie.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

so the issue is one specific item according to you and your solution? instead of hitting the specific item that you say is the issue? you go and mess with pretty much every single crit item in the game... which in turn makes every single melee champion that builds crit also be affected... and let's not forget that not all ADCs build crit either...

Moonfall Saber2 votes

RIght and it will indefinitly be better on champions with higher base AD. Tryndamere Yasuo MasterYi all have higher base AD than adcs.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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RIght and it will indefinitly be better on champions with higher base AD. Tryndamere Yasuo MasterYi all have higher base AD than adcs.

yeah it'll be so much better... by a very minuscule amount, it's like a 30~50ish or so more damage which is less than an autos worth of damage and that's if they build similarly to ADCs... maybe if they build nothing but AD i can see it being better enough to be worth anything but if they do that then they'll just blow up instantly from people looking at them funny

Moonfall Saber3 votes

You know that base AD means that its an un-changable amount. Its the base amount that riot gave them. Its a very large nerf to CRIT overall. However if you build item 3031 its almost about the same damage. Plus item 3031 would also scale with level with this change. Because of this it would deter ADC's from rushing an item 3031 and slow down the steamrole effect that the game has right now. You also wont see Yasuo blowing you up because he built 2 items and became op anymore. Tryndamere on the other hand would actually deal more damage late game than he does right now and I havent checked MasterYi becasue you rarely see him build crit anymore. Look at the numbers again. I did the first example with 100 AD. That will never happen because once you build item 3031 you are well over 100. Plus your base AD is never 40. Thats like MissFortune level 1. (MissFortune has the lower base AD in the game 42). I cant possilbly see how this small damage nerf would be horrible for the game. ADC's need a nerf and this is where we can globally hit them all. It is a much smaller nerf for any melee champions however and It could actually be a buff for them.

Rozair1 votes

I second this idea. It would actually work. It wouldnt effect abilities like MissFortune ult but it nerfs adcs basic attacks. YAY NERF Draven

Taylorwill1 votes

Nerf Yasuo

Rexxiee1 votes

Thats a funny way to spell tanks.

item 3193 is bar none the most op item in the game atm.

Fuzzygonads1 votes

It doesnt deal fucktons of damage at level 6 though

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