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The degenerated state of the game is what makes 'feeding Sion' possible

iTaLenTZ·10/9/2018, 12:52:43 AM·18 votes·9,639 views

Its been a top post on reddit for some days now. This new boost strategy is completely retarded. I played with and against it today a couple of times since by now everyone seems to know about it. There simply is no counter against it. Sion will keep ulting your towers , proc demolish, use ZZ Rot and delete them. Killing him, even if you succeed, will not stop him from taking your turrets either. The whole problem still comes down to 2 things. Towers are wet paper and deal no damage, especially once you buy a bit of armor.

The current pathetic state of towers is long overdue. The fact Riot didn't fixed them this entire season and last season is a fucking joke and someone needs to step up and be held accountable. The fact that they choose not to fix anything after the failed adc item rework was to not interfer with pro play and because people were really pissed off due to the high rate of changes to the game in general. But fixing turrest was something people have been asking for 2 years. The whole problem is that Riot just gave up on this season 3 months ago and didn't even procceed with the changes people were asking for so long because they got paralyzed with fear, lack of vision and leadership and said "we screwed up but fuck the players lets focus all our attention on pro play now because this season is broken beyond repair, better luck next preseason'. Heck they even stopped balancing the game (broken for months among others ). At least they don't even pretend to balance the game any more. They just straight up admit to UNBALANCE the game and ENFORCE a cancerous meta to make the game more appealing and interesting with flashy 100-0 creepdamage and mobility outplay LC$ bigmoney to get more viewers for Worlds.

34 Comments

Critmaster Garen10/9/2018, 1:41:16 AM14 votes

question is if this is a problem.

because technically its not much different than Karthus diving into a teamfight and dieing to trigger his passive.

there was even a whole build around this with revive and teleport, where youd dive into a teamfight, deal as much damage as possible, get your ult off and then revive/tp back with homeguards and rejoin the fight and basically turn it into a 6v5.

just like karthus, sion isnt just inting the enemy team, but dieing with a purpose and hes avoiding death as long as possible, and hes trying to avoid uneccessary deaths.

i think since there are counterstrategies to this, it should stay in the game as a playstile even if its stupid on the surface. riot has choked out a lot of alternative and whacky playstiles in the past and it can make the game stale.

picking an ap top laner like Rumble and rushing item 1082 and item 3041 to scale up on those deaths shuts the strategy down hard for example.

MrBirdy0110/9/2018, 1:12:28 AM8 votes

They do give a fuck. But theres millions of players and everyone has a different opinion about things. It is really hard to please everyone, so they aim to please the majority.

TIGΞR10/9/2018, 12:56:39 AM4 votes

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Alzon10/9/2018, 2:52:28 AM3 votes

Just kill all his minions. Hell, you can do another troll strat and play proxy Singed against him, or even Shyvana or Amumu. With no minions nearby, turrets take 66% reduced damage.

Starcraft243ver10/9/2018, 11:21:04 AM2 votes

So maybe now people will realize this game is NOT about KDA, this game is NOT about killing your opponents, this game is about killing 5 towers and a Nexus.

Also in the youtube video, Sion is far from inting, he follows the ganks, has good rotations, a close to perfect farm. And once he gave a few kills he isnt worth any money so :)

Also the strat is not new, noone remembers that 0-10-0 tryndamere splitpushing and taking your whole base while you kill him again and again ?

Slythrin Umbreon10/9/2018, 1:34:50 AM2 votes

But fixing turrest was something people have been asking for 2 years.

4 years.

Whistersnivet10/9/2018, 2:47:06 AM2 votes

1: And watch them nerf sion because of this... 2: funny thing is, all 5 of the op champs you listed is a common team comp that's cancerous

Pika Fox10/9/2018, 3:05:39 PM2 votes

Its not busted or op or anything. Pick someone that can clear minions well, and hes now utterly useless. Bonus points if you can also clear towers well.

BLACK REALM GOD10/9/2018, 3:13:58 PM2 votes

not going to lie, the strategy is actually what i always thought sion should do in the first place.

edit

frozen heart and a %max hp item would stop this dead in its tracks.

Tychusfindlay91810/9/2018, 6:32:29 PM2 votes

That strat died with banner of command tbh.

Feeding sions typically lose.

back when banner and rot existed, the strat was fucking lowkey nutty but it required your team to make it through whoever the hell you fed (which in tank meta didnt matter because fed tanks arent the scariest thing ever).

lolipopevelynn10/9/2018, 7:02:20 PM2 votes

Pick udyr, use the trick2g gates strat, and take towers 3x faster and more efficiently. Its essentialy the same thing since dying on udyr has zero consequences when he is splitting.

Whisperwind2310/9/2018, 4:31:07 AM1 votes

Not in the LCS yet so they dont really care.

Saianna10/9/2018, 3:03:37 PM1 votes

this vid is kinda meh for 2 reasons:

His team is already snowballing even without his help. The fact he does little for the team shows they'd win it either way, even if just in 4
the start you are saying is not all different than tryndamere/nasus splitpushing. Farm untill you puke then either win thanks to your team or lose.

Häßlich12/3/2018, 7:40:19 AM1 votes

I've gotta thumbs this down for failing to understand the real problem here. Scion does this because of "cheat death" mechanics. They have been in the game forever, but have always been bad for it. Things like GA, Hourglass, Kayle's ult, Sion's passive, and similar effects have consistently created trolly and griefy games that remove skill from the equation in favor of cheese. Check out the Aatrox at the end of game 3 in Fnatic vs C9 world semi-finals. It's pure cancer. The problem isn't towers and you can't "fix" them until you fix this first.

Hexs Fortune10/9/2018, 3:09:37 PM1 votes

Click bait title on that video*[slayer-pantheon-rainbows]*