What should I be building on Mordekaiser now?

Big Lincoln·Jul 17, 2015·1 votes·626 views

His build path seems a little... too flexible? I always feel like I'm giving up something in exchange for what I'm taking; I really like (any AP item that gives me extra movespeed basically) but it never seems that I can afford to give up my defensive items in exchange for it

Right now, I want to say I usually go for a bruiser-y build; (i love this item now; that 40% slow) gives me enough AP to scale decently, but I really don't like WOTA (I only build it because of the health costs)

should I take for the DPS boost / extra shield upkeep thanks to the added CDR or is the early mpen more important? What should I replace Abyssal with in the case of heavy AD teams? ?

16 Comments

Chaotic ReksJul 17, 20153 votes

here is the build that lets you 1v5 while losing very little health: item 3152 first (fuck health costs) item 3001 second (fuck everything near you) item 3111 3rd (fuck cc) item 3075 4th (fuck adc's) item 3135 5th (fuck magic resis) item 3151 6th or item 3083 (because fuck everything)

Flying BuntcakeJul 17, 20151 votes

I prefer hextech to WoTa, because it gives morde an extra escape slow and gives him ad and ap for his skill scaling.

Chaotic ReksJul 17, 20151 votes

the recent changes to WoTa have seen me favor it over gunblade, but both work out well

Raid Boss MordeJul 19, 20151 votes

Wota has always been better though. Cheaper + CDR!

MatezoideJul 17, 20151 votes

Mord has a lot of good item options, you have to adapt depending on the enemy's team, as well as yours.

Liandries is actually a good item on him now though, since the buff.

Craft ZeppelinJul 17, 20151 votes

I do gunblade with ludens, its really fun how your bullet explodes on contact doing like 500 damage

Big LincolnJul 17, 20151 votes

Do you substitute anything for CDR, or do you grab full AP for the burst rotations?

Flying BuntcakeJul 17, 20151 votes

I think playing morde is the struggle to do as much damage as often as possible. CDR or Ap is a personal choice.

3tysonJul 17, 20151 votes

never played moord so dont expect this to work but when playing against a fed moord i felt like his dot was really painful so id think since item 3151 gives 80 ap now and stil gives hp to its not a bad choise

Big LincolnJul 17, 20151 votes

I guess it's not a terrible pick, but since he only has the one DoT (his ultimate) I feel like his synergy with the item has been overstated.

It does work very well for him when he's dealing with tanks though.

3tysonJul 17, 20151 votes

dunno all of his abilities i just saw myself shitting my pants afther i saw my hp drop for ever every time i gankd and was already away from him for quite a while

but i gues he might have ulted me every gank

Big LincolnJul 17, 20151 votes

...Also if anyone could help with runes, that'd be great.

I usually take spell vamp quints to mitigate the sustain issue until I get revolver, but would AP quints do me better for trading? Magic penetration marks is what I run as well, though sometimes I take AP. And then I go armor yellows/MR blues, though CDR might help me as well especially in top lane?

agbudarJul 19, 20152 votes

even if his ratio's are low remember that they are all AOE

so take his E for example it only has a 0.6 ratio but you hit multiple enemies with it.

personally i have a lot of succes with the following rune page keep in mind that i play morde mostly toplane magic penetration marks armor seals flat ap glyph's flat ap essences and then 21/9/0 masteries

morde i feel is a bruiser he turns offensive damage into a shield so offensive masteries have too much synergy to give up on you do more damage and you get more shield for it.

when im toplane against another AP champion i suck up the laning phase start with tome and use my shield as much as possible to migitate their poke and rush abys sceptre next after hexgun. run teleport ofc so you can make fast stops at the base to get your health back and get your hexgun as soon as possible.

Old Man TeetoJul 17, 20151 votes

Move Speed Quints Flat Armor Yellow (Or scaling health if you know you're against an AP) Flat MR Blue (Or scaling AP if you know you're against an AD) Magic Pen Red

Boots + pots cloth + pots (if vs AD) Revolver Needlessly Large Rod Boots 1 Your preference of NLR upgrade. (Zhonya's if vs AD since you started cloth) Boots 2 WotA Haunting Guise if you went Rylai's Any other NLR upgrade Void

Abyssal at anytime if large amounts of AP threats GA If 6'th item first defensive item

BastionKrossJul 17, 20151 votes

Morde has very low ratios for a burst mage, so building tons of AP isn't a good idea now that DFG got removed. It's more cost-effective to build Mpen on him to benefit from his high base damages.

In addition, his shield takes less damage the more resistances you have, so those are good to aim for as well. CDR is very important to keep his passive working.

Personally, I prefer 15% CDR from runes + 5% from masteries. My core items are usually item 3001 item 3020 item 3068 (Abyssal actually improves the damage of Sunfire). Now you have Mpen for damage, a good amount of armor/mr to survive, and sustained damage to improve your W. After that, it's all up to you. More resists, more mpen, more CDR, whichever you need more of.

You could even grab items like item 3060 item 3512 item 3056 to splitpush.

agbudarJul 19, 20151 votes

what i usually do is item 3158 item 3152 item 3116 21/9/0 masteries so i get 30% cdr. by the time i finish of my 2nd item

good 4th/5th items are item 3151 item 3001

item 3157 only when i really need it i ussually play morde toplane were he can shut down some really cancerous champions that otherwise go out of controll

the item 3100 item 3285 i feel is only for when you are really fed i personally like these 2 items due to their massive movement speed that you get to enjoy from luden's which really makes your imobility not hurt as much but this i feel is more reserved for midlane when you are expected to burst.

the recent ap item changes really brought some spotlight back to him. deathcap i feel is not really a good item morde is a midgame champion there was this guide i once read on this guy in season 3-4 that had a MORDEKAISER ONLY acount in plat. and his math showed that abys sceptre was better for damage due to the high base damage and the mr reduction you get to enjoy. although i wonder how that is gonna work out with the 5.14 patch they are testing some changes back and forth.