So why are there so many zoe complaint threads when.....

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See, this works until you remember what happened with Ekko. In my opinion, people just need a black sheep to flame, and CertainlyT ended up being that sheep.

I seriously still don't understand what's so bad about Zoe. Her Q isn't any more im/oppressive than Vel'Koz's and her E isn't that bad when you compare it to other Burst Mage patterns (Oh you got hit by a Lux Q as a squishy? kbai). The only ability I can see causing any issues is her W, but that's a whole different discussion that goes beyond CT.

I think Ekko is an absolute brilliant design, is CertainlyT responsible for him? When I quickly looked up his champions, it was from an old reddit post so Ekko wouldn't have been on there haha.

I'm not really aware of "what happened to Ekko" though. Are you referencing his incredibly overtuned release state? Because Ekko was the definition of a great design abused by lack of tuning for a long time after release. If you're suggesting that people don't think Ekko is a good design, I would have to disagree. I know several people first hand that absolutely love Ekko, I myself mained him for awhile until I went back to my immobile mages.

As for Zoe, her entire kit revolves around rng and one-shotting, her design is literally to enforce some of the most perceived attributes toxic gameplay. Not only that, but she's boring and binary with essentially only one combo. Also, (according to some people, not me) she has pretty annoying visual/audio effects. My personal most hated thing about Zoe aside from her boring and predictable single combo is the fact that her E's range is huge if going through walls. It creates such a frustrating environment, I absolutely hate it.

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Was that an edit? Anywho my personal thoughts:

Thresh is cool. I don't understand any issues with him honestly, facing him or otherwise. The last time I asked about Thresh in particular, I was told it was shellshock from his release state which was apparently OP.

Kalista must be SUPER ANNOYING...for the champions she is supposed to counter. I can't help but notice that everybody who complains about Kalista site how toxic she is for immobile melee champions. Yes, that's what she's supposed to do, a lot of ADCs do this already, why do you think Vayne top is so toxic? Not saying that Kalista isn't annoying at times, what I mean is that it's a fundamental element of this game that people are overattributing specifically to Kalista and CertainlyT.

Yasuo is just a meme at this point.

Zyra I feel like is similar to Kalista. If I'm playing somebody that Zyra hard counters, well fuck me no lube. If I'm playing literally anyone else. Whatever. Ironically I feel like Zyra's actual problems are actually opposite of what people usually attribute to CT, in that Zyra isn't fun to play since she's relegated to Support instead of Mid.

I never cared for Darius. Was always a Garen fan honestly. Apparently he's similar to Thresh in that older players have PTSD from his release days.

Ya I referenced Zyra, Kalista, and Darius has fotm hate champs because they really only pop up when the meta favors them or they get overtuned. Overall I think they're creative champions, but maybe not the best from a design perspective because they can be downright unfair and frustrating for entire classes of champions.