Re: Avarice Blade

JustMyBassCannon··1 votes·890 views

Just bringing back something from a thread I wrote two months ago; I still believe it's relevant, but I prefer not to necro-post.

What purpose does Avarice Blade serve? Well, let's think about this. Avarice Blade is a 750 gold Crit item that grants 10% Crit Chance, 3 GP10, and 2 gold per unit kill. Crit tends to be a carry-oriented statistic, as the lack of Crit+Defense items makes it somewhat difficult to realistically build on most fighters, and the lack of reliability makes it a non-priority for pure assassins. So, logically, it seems to be a gold-gain item for carries, mostly marksmen and a few specific fighters.

Except, which carries actually want this item?

The problems I find with it; -Crit Chance is not an early-game stat. It's something you build after you have a bit of AD/AS to scale with it, or that builds out of AD/AS items. -Gold-gain items on marksmen are somewhat redundant. They're supposed to have in the top 3 CS count on the team, so they're already earning a lot of gold. I thought the point of the gold-gain items was to help the junglers and supports keep up. -It's old, and has barely been changed. Honestly, can you see Riot releasing this item as it is today? -Most items that Avarice Blade builds, the exception being Atma's Impaler, are items that help more when completed. I can see no reason why someone would want to delay Youmuu's, Shiv or ExCa (yes, almost nobody builds it ever, but in the cases where it IS built, you don't want to wait).

Yet, Avarice Blade is an item that builds value as long as you hold onto it. It's the Catalyst/Rod of Ages oxymoron except with GP10.

So why does Avarice Blade exist? Why haven't we just dropped it and used Cloak of Agility in its place?

Thoughts? Arguments otherwise? Cookies?

5 Comments

Lumus Avatar1 votes

Leave avarice blade alone, I use it on almost every character from Ashe to Vi. It's a good early game gold-gain item and adds a little crit chance to boot. I use it specifically on champs that need expensive items quickly. It is exceptionally helpful to marksmen for getting that Bloodthirster or Infinity Edge or Phantom Dancer a little faster. I use it on my fighters that want to rush to Ravenous Hydra or Blade of the Ruined King.

I have found it most helpful to start top lane Gangplank with a Brawler's Glove item 1051 and build that into Avarice on first back. This allows me to score crits on my Parrrley ability for good harass, and get my Hydra up faster.

JustMyBassCannon2 votes

"Let's not discuss what he said about Avarice Blade, let's just say we use it on everyone and downvote the thread."

Thank you, sir, for not using the forums for their express purpose. Thank you also for not actually reading what the thread says, because it's not like I could have any valid points when I want a redundant, piece of shit item replaced, removed or reworked.

Lumus Avatar1 votes

Any time ;)

Ten Inch Rooster1 votes

I use it probably 90% of the time when I'm GP and ride it until probably my 5th item which is when I turn it into the Shiv. My methodology for this is that I know that pretty much 100% of the time I'm going to have a Shiv in my end-game build as it really does a lot for GP. In lane I just play Farmplank. Even if I wasn't farming with the Q/Hydra combo, I would still get the Avarice Blade on my first back because for every moment that is in my inventory the total cost of my overall build goes down. By holding it and focusing on farming with skillfully placed hydra hits to allow my Q to proc on multiple minions, I keep the edge in item acquisition speed allowing me to be a powerhouse. I don't really build it on anyone else though.

JustMyBassCannon1 votes

I'm not asking, "How do you use Avarice Blade?"

I'm asking, "What purpose does the item serve?"

Look at what I actually wrote, and discuss that instead of "I like to use Avarice Blade in my Champion X build because reasons." Because I want peoples' opinions on Avarice Blade, not their builds.

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