What If A Certain Amount Of Mastery Was Required To Use A Champion In Ranked?

Best Ekko NA·Sep 23, 2018·2 votes·1,050 views

How would that make people feel, good or bad?

9 Comments

DuskDaUmbreonSep 23, 20182 votes

Feel like shit usually, because that just creates an unnecessary amount of grinding.

Best Ekko NASep 23, 20181 votes

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Feel like shit usually, because that just creates an unnecessary amount of grinding.

How so?

I'm not sure I fully understand because usually if you know how to play something and enjoy playing it you'd already have a decent level of mastery wouldn't you? Could you explain a bit further if I'm misunderstanding what you mean?

DuskDaUmbreonSep 23, 20181 votes

Okay. Let's say I picked up Malzahar. I'm pretty good at him, because he's fairly simple.

After a couple games on him, I decide that I'm good enough to play ranked with him (as, again, he's not that complicated). With what you're proposing I'd have to play 10-20 more games just to play Malzahar, despite him being a rather low skill floor champion.

Also, champion swapping is a thing.

Best Ekko NASep 23, 20181 votes

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Okay. Let's say I picked up Malzahar. I'm pretty good at him, because he's fairly simple.

After a couple games on him, I decide that I'm good enough to play ranked with him (as, again, he's not that complicated). With what you're proposing I'd have to play 10-20 more games just to play Malzahar, despite him being a rather low skill floor champion.

Also, champion swapping is a thing.

Well, I didn't say you'd need Mastery 5 to play, just some level of Mastery. If you believe the issue is how much Mastery then how much would you say is too much, and how much might be an acceptable amount?

As for swapping, unless you are duo'ing that's not something which commonly happens so I personally don't see it being a big deal until perhaps Diamond I and higher (where players run into each other more frequently).

420 gramsSep 24, 20182 votes

Would feel pretty terrible tbh. "Can you first pick me this champ?" "Sorry, I'm not mastery 99 on them so can't"

warpenguin555Sep 23, 20181 votes

It wouldn't solve the problem of people 1st timing a VGU

Best Ekko NASep 23, 20181 votes

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It wouldn't solve the problem of people 1st timing a VGU

VGU's do not happen very often, and in most cases the champions end up with very similar kits. I suppose there are some champions like Aatrox where the kit ends up entirely different, but when you look at the majority of them most parts of reworked champion kits remain intact. While it would be an outlier it's not really a major issue.

The biggest part is trying to get players at least some experience before playing new champions in ranked, even if only a minor amount. I wouldn't care if it was only Mastery level 1 required. As long as players have used the champion and understand what it does, then that's fine with me. There are so many people who just pick things in ranked without ever trying the champion first that it's unbelievable. I had one game a while back with 3 people first timing their champions. I couldn't find evidence in any of their summoner profiles that even 1 of the 3 had ever attempted to use their champions previously. The game ended up a nightmare, needless to say, and who did they try to blame? Me because I was the Jungler and apparently it was my job to do everything for players who you could tell didn't understand what their champion did.

It's a pretty major problem that could easily be solved by something like requiring Mastery, if even only a little.

5050BSSep 23, 20181 votes

Few things that this would fix.

You should have mastery 4 to play ranked.
Any time a Champ is reworked or mini-reworked everyones master is reset with that champ
Riot can see how fast people hit mastery 4 with a reworked champ and can gauge if the champ is over tuned or not (faster mastery means better scores with the champ means ez play)
Ranked games will have people that invested play into the champ they have picked and has a clue how to play them.

Alex h8721Sep 23, 20181 votes

Problem with this is that now instead of having to own 20X champs to play ranked, you would have to own 20X champs and have them all at that level of mastery (because if your "main"/backup higher mastery picks get taken then often you're left w/ a backup option that you don't play as often and may not even have the mastery required).