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So RIOT basically KILLED conqueror. im done.

jng dif victim··1 votes·1,441 views

Conqueror S8 : 4 sec in combat to activate / viable literally even on every bruiser . 10-35 AD + 20% true Damage. conqueror s9 : only get activated when u damage a champion with attack or abilities (big nerf) and only 10% ture damage (another big nerf) and 2-8 AD per stack. Conqueror patch 9.4 : AD reduced from 2-8 to 1-5 per stack (another big nerf) Conqueror patch 9.5 : AD reduced from 1-5 to 1-3 per stack (at this point conqueror literally died.) i mean. top lane was in a horrible spot already in general. and with killing conqueror u just killed top lane. now when i want to go to a game i have to choose between playing champion that i like it and have fun playing it but lose Or pick Nasus or Sion and get bored AF spam my Qs but win the game. Sounds good. Thank u riot. ur changes every patch is perfect. im quiting now for a while(or maybe lifetime) till Riot finally hires Some HUMANS for balancing the game.

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DuskDaUmbreon9 votes

Conqueror S8 : 4 sec in combat to activate / viable literally even on every bruiser . 10-35 AD + 20% true Damage.

That's a strange way to spell "I CS'd 2 minions and now you can't come close to the wave because my keystone is up and I'll kick your ass"

New conq actually makes you fight to get your keystone, instead of it being free because you're a lane bully.

Iota Theta5 votes

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That's a strange way to spell "I CS'd 2 minions and now you can't come close to the wave because my keystone is up and I'll kick your ass"

New conq actually makes you fight to get your keystone, instead of it being free because you're a lane bully.

Pretty much. There are some activation issues, where some (Renekton, Jax, Urgot) stack it much faster and some (Garen, Illaoi, etc) have much greater issues. Beyond the stacking, the final result is definitely better.

Love how the OP left off that it now also heals.

jng dif victim1 votes

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That's a strange way to spell "I CS'd 2 minions and now you can't come close to the wave because my keystone is up and I'll kick your ass"

New conq actually makes you fight to get your keystone, instead of it being free because you're a lane bully.

u are probabbly an adc main or top lane TANK player. ofc u are not a bruiser main. if u was. u noticed that even with full conqueror stacks u dont deal damage its shit now. bullshit. its dead. bruisers cannot beat tanks anymore. u should be happy and thats why u down vote my thread for sure. gratz for u

Iota Theta4 votes

bruisers cannot beat tanks anymore.

Not exactly true. Most fighters eventually outscale in offense, which is why they usually have better winrates and playrates than tanks. Laning isn’t as strong against them, but they still win more.

Some are also naturally better against tanks while others are better at beating squishier champs. One rune should not give the power to do both at the same time.

Old Conquerer was not really a sustained combat rune. It was a “farm for 4 seconds, trade, win with your increased AD and True damage conversion.” Now, you actually have to engage in sustained fights to get it going, the type of fight where fighters thrive naturally.

There are also these items..umm..oh yeah: item 3071 item 3036 item 3033 item 3124. They all give either %armor shred (cleaver) or %pen (the rest). Maybe build those if you want to kill a tank, instead of build to kill a squishier champ and beat tanks just the same.

DuskDaUmbreon2 votes

...Most of the champions I play now are juggernauts.

jocomotion5 votes

First, you forgot to mention how you’ll heal from all the true damage conquerer deals, so that’s 10% true damage conversion and 10% “true healing”

Secondly, it was abundantly clear that stacking Conquerer on minions to gaurentee a winning trade was toxic to actual gameplay. The only other rune to do that is grasp, and that rune doesn’t give The dueling potential conq does, it’s more of a one-and done stacking rune.

Third, no single keystone should make beating an entire class gaurented, if it did it wouldn’t be fair to people who play tanks, sure it should help, but having a so much of your resistances ignored without needing to build anti tank items like item 3153 item 3071 item 3035 etc... was also pretty toxic to the game.

Fourth everyone said the game had too much damage, and everyone said conquerer was too strong, and you know what? Riot listened.

And finally you forgot to mention if you actually do get all your stacks by fighting someone with Conquerer the total goes up to 5-15 total AD from 10-35 before sure it’s not much but it still does stack, and you have to man up and fight champions over time to get it like a dueling rune should.

General Matty3 votes

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SithesisLord2 votes

Bruiser/Skirmisher mains wanted Fervor back. They got a buffed version of it with 9.4 Conqueror.

Not to mention the cancer in your username is quite literally the second best top laner in the game right now, not to mention one of the best Conqueror users, outperformed only by the bigger cancer named Riven.

Vlada Cut1 votes

Excellent, now that it takes 3 stacks you no longer have to use Press The Attack. Thanks Riot for putting my favorite keystone in the shadows for so long.

sAyCo1 votes

True Conqueror have gone really hard.. it very very bad now.

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