There's something seriously f*cked up with this game when almost every assassin has cc that's just as good (if not better) as tanks. I just gotta ask why do assassins need HARD CC in their kits? This is supposed to be a TEAM game. Assassins have damage, but they're not supposed to have amazing lockdown. That's what teammates are supposed to be for.
Zed genius3 votesShe is also the only assassin that gets full cd on basic abilities refunded and -15 sec cd on ult with takedowns.
boricCentaur12 votesBasically no assassin has hard cc, they have slows to catch people and roots but that is basically it. There is eve,ekko and shaco yeah those are the only ones I can think of that have actual hard cc.
Assassins need cc to catch people that is it.
Also I don't think you know what a assassin is they are supposed to have good lockdown that is the point of them they take out a single champion like a adc.
5050BS2 votesAssassins should not have any CC. Assassins should have Burst on Ult CD and Mobility and no Poke or CC.
musixxal2 votesthe community is made up of idiots. woe betide.
Arcade Lulu1 votes
Here are pretty much all of the assassins with no hard cc
And about a half of those don't really have any cc, if i'm not mistaken
Cloud2734 votes[{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I7GAwGrm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-01T20:32:21.770+0000)
And about a half of those don't really have any cc, if i'm not mistaken
I'm not just talking about hard cc I'm talking about ANY kind of cc, and literally every single one of those champs have cc (except kat).
The Gray Wind1 votesConsidering her ult and dagger dashes, I don't think she needs one.
Cloud2732 votes[{quoted}](name=The Gray Wind,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I7GAwGrm,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-01T21:10:07.295+0000)
Considering her ult and dagger dashes, I don't think she needs one.
That's not really the point of this thread, and I NEVER said she needs cc.
The Gray Wind1 votesI could've sworn the OP was more centered on kat not having any cc and griping. It moved me to believe you were arguing for her to have some. Must've been tired at the time. I apologize for the misunderstanding.
Arcade Lulu1 votesWhat cc does talon have? Or diana? Or kayn? Or kha??
Cloud2733 votes[{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I7GAwGrm,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-09-01T21:19:24.002+0000)
What cc does talon have? Or diana? Or kayn? Or kha??
Why don't you google it. Not my job to do your homework for you.
giannishannibal1 votesFYI slow is soft cc but cc regardless. That being said Talon has a slow on his W, Kayne has slow in his base W- slow in blue form and knock up in red, Diana E literaly pulls enemies closer to her. Kha has slow on his W
Modl Ryden l2 votes[{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I7GAwGrm,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-09-01T21:19:24.002+0000)
What cc does talon have? Or diana? Or kayn? Or kha??
Anything that can interrupt offensive or defensive actions, sometimes in addition to movement, is considered hard crowd control. Anything that interrupts movement is soft crowd control.
On the basis that in soft cc, at least you can fight your way out of your inability to move (like when you're rooted, snared, or slowed). Whereas hard cc, you're at the whim of your tenacity and the duration of the condition. No abilities, basic attacks, or summoner spells unless stated otherwise.
And although brief, they still count.
Diana's Moonfall has a draw, or applies an airborne condition on enemies to move towards her. Kayn -> Rhaast's Bladereach can apply an airborne condition to enemies affected.
Kha doesn't have hard crowd control.
Kassadin's Null Sphere however applies a short interruption that halts an enemies channel immediately. Although it doesn't prevent them from moving, it prevents them from acting offensively or defensively from it, maybe not entirely but it disables a wider array of options than a root or a slow could.
Divin1ty4 votes[{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I7GAwGrm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-01T20:32:21.770+0000)
And about a half of those don't really have any cc, if i'm not mistaken
Fizz has hard CC, just like Diana. And the rest of that, Slow counts as CC. So all of them, except Kata, offer some form of CC.
Arcade Lulu1 votesWhat hard cc do they have?
Edit: i just remembered that Fizz's ult knocks up if it hits
Divin1ty1 votes[{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I7GAwGrm,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-09-01T21:35:08.760+0000)
What hard cc do they have?
Edit: i just remembered that Fizz's ult knocks up if it hits
Fizz has the knockup (also a slow), Diana has her Pull, which is also a Knockup. Both are hard CCs.
Arcade Lulu1 votesTrue But OP was more or less complaining about amazing lockdowns. I wouldn't really say a small slow etc was an amazing lockdown So my point still stands, nearly not all of the assassins have hard cc (even though OP said that they have)
Cloud2731 votes[{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I7GAwGrm,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-01T21:50:35.423+0000)
True But OP was more or less complaining about amazing lockdowns. I wouldn't really say a small slow etc was an amazing lockdown So my point still stands, nearly not all of the assassins have hard cc (even though OP said that they have)
No I NEVER said all assassins have hard cc. And it doesn't really matter whether it's hard cc or not. I just used the champs I mentioned as examples.
ZephyrDrake2 votesNo I NEVER said all assassins have hard cc. And it doesn't really matter whether it's hard cc or not. I just used the champs I mentioned as examples.
So what you are telling us is that a slow is somehow on par with hard CC? That somehow assassins with slows have better CC than tanks? You didn't think for 5 seconds before making the thread did you? Specially when your thread specifically mentions HARD CC!
Cloud2732 votesSo what you are telling us is that a slow is somehow on par with hard CC? That somehow assassins with slows have better CC than tanks? You didn't think for 5 seconds before making the thread did you? Specially when your thread specifically mentions HARD CC!
Again that was just an example. But this applies to all cc assassins have.
ZephyrDrake2 votesAgain that was just an example. But this applies to all cc assassins have.
Again you are lying and literally didn't put more than 5 seconds of thought into making this thread. You are literally complaining about HARD CC and assassins proving SETUP and them "almost always" providing CC that is just as good or better than tanks... READ YOUR OWN POST! literally everything you said is wrong and now you want to backpedal like crazy without even bothering to correct your own FAULTY argument. Sorry but a slow is not a setup or better than what tanks bring in any capacity. Literally everything you said is wrong. There is no other way of saying it.
The Gray Wind1 votesI thought he was talking about only hard cc as well as that seems to be the one in his post that's upsetting him.
T2K Baka1 votes
"i didn't know i came here to be disrespected"
giannishannibal1 votesAlso fizz E has slow too apart from ult.
JuiceBoxP1 votesthe champions you mentioned have cc. Except kat talon and kassadin
Diana has hard cc on e, kayn has hard cc in red form, fizz has hard cc on ult
Khazix has massive slows on evolved w and on his empowered aa
BladeSteel2 votesKassadin has slow and mini silence, talon has slow.
JuiceBoxP1 votesRight... I forgot...
FOR JUSTICE3 votes[{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I7GAwGrm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-01T20:32:21.770+0000)
And about a half of those don't really have any cc, if i'm not mistaken
has a displacement
has an AoE knockup
other then that yeah.
Illabethe1 votesLiterally the only assassin with hard CC is Pyke, and he's not really an assassin. He's more of an executioner (made up class, but more adequate).
Pyke relies on other champions doing their jobs for him to do his.
The reason Assassins are the focus of games they are in is no their cc; it's their mobility over/through walls, and synergy with Electrocute, and their resets.
5050BS3 votes
"Seriously?"
BladeSteel2 votes 
and kind of 
Hard CC includes fears and knockups/knockbacks, not just stuns
Illabethe1 votesEkko, Qiyana, are not considered Assassins (even if they can kill quick)
I did forget Shaco.
Quinn is not an assassin. She's an adc.
Personally I wouldn't consider Fizz's R hard CC that ranks, since it only knocks up briefly, but eh.... I can give that one too.
BladeSteel3 votesYes they are considered Assassins. They were released as Assassins. Go to your client. Click "collections" and go to the champion tab. Then change the organization to "role" and look at the list of assassins.
And what on earth are ekko and qiyana if they aren't assassins? lol
Edit: Proof. https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-913-notes <- Calls Qiyana an ASSASSIN https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/page/champion-reveal/ekko-boy-who-shattered-time <- Calls Ekko an ASSASSIN
BladeSteel1 votesGoing to the League client and organizing by Role gives you the following Assassins with hard cc (If one assumes hard cc is silence, stun, snare, knockup, knockback) Ahri, Akali, Ekko, Evelynn, Fiora (conditional), Fizz, Irelia, Jax, Kassadin (has a mini silence), Kayn (Red Form), LeBlanc, Lee Sin, Malzahar, Nocturn, Pantheon, Pyke, Qiyana, Quinn, Rengar, Riven, Shaco, Sylas, Tristana, Vayne, Vi, Xin Zhao, and Yasuo.
DalekZec1 votes[zombie-brand-facepalm] Same what Arcade Lulu said.
But seriously, how the hell are you even convinced that Katarina is the only Assassin with no cc yet it's so obvious that she isn't? I want to know how your thinking process works here.
JuiceBoxP1 votes
these guys don't have any cc either
Tanks have far better cc than assassins. Far. Better.
BladeSteel3 votesThey do have slows which is a form of cc.
JuiceBoxP1 votesZed doesn't have any slow outside of 
BladeSteel1 votesShadow plus e slows
BladeSteel1 votesActually organizing the league collection tab for roles, there are 3 "assassins" (according to Riot) that don't have any cc (including slows and knockups). Those are Yi, Kat, and Nidalee.
Modl Ryden l1 votesHonestly, if any of y'all have play PVP in pre-Cata WoW, y'all would be hella pissed about what a a subtlety rogue could do to you.
Kidney Shot -> 100 - 0 combo.
Basically the LoL equivalent of a tibbers stun and every Duskblade/Sheen proc, critical strike, and ability rotation imaginable.
Unless of course you had a QSS or the WoW equivalent.
Sinister Anubis1 votesAssassins with hard cc
Her Charm
Her E
his W
Her Charm
His ulti
His knock up
Her chains
HIs fear
His Q and E
Her Ice element Q and ulti aoe stun
Empowered E
His boxes
Her Q and Her R
His 3rd Q
Assassins with soft cc
Her Q slows
His Q slows
His E slows
His E slows and his Q silences
His W slows
His missles slows
Tap Q slows
his non empowered E slows
His W slows
His E slows
Katarina is the ONLY assassin with no CC what so ever. I listed all champions riot has listed as assassins tho some that are not play as such like arhi or ekko they are still classified as assassins. There is more i can list but most of us wont say that are assassins. [slayer-jinx-catface]