This is getting fucking insane. People are allowed to play new champs and reworks in ranked and lose it for their team so easily. Fucking fix it Riot PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Ahri Baka2 votesI might hate it when they play Kai'Sa , but as for Irelia , she is pretty fine , she is not bad and not hard , her E is the only problem maybe
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Dude it's not about balance or a champ being good or bad. The problem is people first timing in ranked.
Reworks and new champs should be restricted to normal for 2 week. I have no way to tell people that did play the champ enough to play it ranked from the other clowns, so I'd rather have it removed from ranked, it's particularly toxic in low elo.
Just tried to launch a game and on 4 matchmaking, I got 4 irelia in my team. It's fucking annoying.
Hethalean2 votesIt is real annoying when other people than me do poorly and thus cause me to lose a game.
Lleajy1 votesI don't think you can get more fallacious. You're confusing cause and consequence. If the consequence is the same, it doesn't mean the cause is the same and unavoidable.
Sort your logic pls.
Hethalean1 votesI was more or less using mockery of the logic in your statement, to be honest. That's why it was pretty easy to see as poor. I mean just look at the phrasing for goodness sakes. "other people than me". That's a bit too much introspection for people making that statement.
Especially in Silver elo, there are far more ways and far more powerful ways someone can lose or a game is lost than someone doing bad with a champion. It's a fools errand to try to eliminate one reason you see as far too risky. Plus it focuses on the small view of a single game and a single reason someone got lost. That's a bad way to want to play ranked. You're always going to have someone who is behind on your team, and it is something you should know how to do (aka play around that).
Lleajy1 votesI don't first time champ in ranked, so I don't see the problem in that ?
Í'm obviously not fucking talking about bad players but about first timer in ranked. Pretty easy to understand no ?
Your mocking is completely unsuccessful and you just shoot in your feet.
Hethalean1 votesIf that's all you can take out of what I'm saying, that's all the more I can expect from you.
Lleajy1 votesSorry, I don't read the rest of a comment when the first sentence implies trolling and being wrong.
Being bad and using a champ you don't know is two different thing. the second situation is easily avoided by doing what I said. The first one... Well it's low elo.
People doing bad doesn't justify not taking the minimum action to reduce the number of issues. I don't see how your fallacies have anything to do with my logic.
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Dude it's not about balance or a champ being good or bad. The problem is people first timing in ranked.
Reworks and new champs should be restricted to normal for 2 week. I have no way to tell people that did play the champ enough to play it ranked from the other clowns, so I'd rather have it removed from ranked, it's particularly toxic in low elo.
Just tried to launch a game and on 4 matchmaking, I got 4 irelia in my team. It's fucking annoying.
Yeah but , that won't change much , many players will try other champions in ranked too
Get Ogre Here1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hikari Sakata,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I72ZLgR9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-04T16:45:56.254+0000)
I might hate it when they play Kai'Sa , but as for Irelia , she is pretty fine , she is not bad and not hard , her E is the only problem maybe
Is that why everyone loses on her?
Iręlía1 votesBut irelia is broken, Shes definitely getting nerfed, sad to say. I'm still switching to her as my new Main, New Eve is jsut getting tiring to play unlike old Eve. Plus Irelia is really like me in a few ways.
Her scaling is insane I think. Should ban her in ranked until the next patch.
heroikc1 votesWhat can they do? Ban all newly made champs from ranked? That seems unbalanced; if there are people silly enough to pick a champ they have no idea to play in ranked, it's not our problem.
Get Ogre Here1 votesWhat can they do? Ban all newly made champs from ranked? That seems unbalanced; if there are people silly enough to pick a champ they have no idea to play in ranked, it's not our problem.
Yes. Don't allow a champ/rework for let's say a week in ranked. That way everyone who wants to play them at least has some experience on them before inting in ranked on them
heroikc1 votes[{quoted}](name=Get Ogre Here,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I72ZLgR9,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-04-04T18:12:45.113+0000)
Yes. Don't allow a champ/rework for let's say a week in ranked. That way everyone who wants to play them at least has some experience on them before inting in ranked on them
No offense, but that only delays inexperienced players for one week; I still find new Nidalee players screwing up games every now and then, and how long has she been out?
Get Ogre Here1 votesNo offense, but that only delays inexperienced players for one week; I still find new Nidalee players screwing up games every now and then, and how long has she been out?
But all the people who are on the hype train right away will have already practiced. There will always be people doing bad on every champ, but the chance is just lower.
heroikc1 votes[{quoted}](name=Get Ogre Here,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I72ZLgR9,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-04T21:37:10.832+0000)
But all the people who are on the hype train right away will have already practiced. There will always be people doing bad on every champ, but the chance is just lower.
How much you wanna bet that the change would be positively significant?
Biotic1 votesthe reworks are ridiculous......they may be a better character concept but they are always overpowered and fuck up the meta..........just look at zac and ww................terrible to play against
ampheon1 votesThey may have played her one PBE (since PBE accounts are more available). They may just be bad at the champ, at Riot doesn't punish for being bad.
Rysophage1 votesthere are these things called bans you know.
Get Ogre Here1 votesthere are these things called bans you know.
By the ban phase they always have her hovered and when I ban her they troll pick. (Happened twice, only have so many dodges)