what happens if you buy melee only items on kayle before she hits lvl 11?

Critmaster Garen·Feb 21, 2019·1 votes·2,338 views

are they disabled upon lvl 11, or is she locked out of them from the start (meaning she cant buy them before lvl 11 despite technically being a melee champion until then)?

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FOR JUSTICEFeb 21, 20193 votes

i think it works like gnar, you just wont get the bonuses anymore until you meet their criteria again.

Critmaster GarenFeb 21, 20191 votes

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i think it works like gnar, you just wont get the bonuses anymore until you meet their criteria again.

i guess that makes sense. i mean its really awkward in this case, since gnar never entirely loses the benefit of those items, while for kayle theyre just going to stop working. but still, i can see the logic to how it works.

FOR JUSTICEFeb 21, 20191 votes

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i guess that makes sense. i mean its really awkward in this case, since gnar never entirely loses the benefit of those items, while for kayle theyre just going to stop working. but still, i can see the logic to how it works.

ok i just tested in practice tool, a few interactions:

picking up a rapid firecannon will have no effect, until you have 1 point in your E (doesnt have to be used, just a skill point in it. it works normally afterward, energized attacks and all.)
steraks can be bought and WILL proc, regardless of when she bought it, or if she uses E. just no giant's strength part of the passive after level 11.
runnans can be bought, but bolts wont fire untill she's ranged (level 11)

so yeah i was flat out wrong before. anything else you need me to check real quick?

Critmaster GarenFeb 21, 20191 votes

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ok i just tested in practice tool, a few interactions:

picking up a rapid firecannon will have no effect, until you have 1 point in your E (doesnt have to be used, just a skill point in it. it works normally afterward, energized attacks and all.)

steraks WILL proc, regardless of when she bought it, or if she uses E. just no giant's strength part of the passive.

runnans can be bought, but bolts wont fire untill she's ranged

so yeah i was flat out wrong before. anything else you need me to check real quick?

not really. i highly disapprove of the steraks being available to her as a ranged champion, but i highly doubt that the hydras will work past lvl 11.

thx for the efford though.

FOR JUSTICEFeb 21, 20191 votes

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not really. i highly disprove of the steraks being available to her as a ranged champion, but i highly doubt that the hydras will work past lvl 11.

thx for the efford though.

can confirm the hydras can be bought but passives wont work after level 11. same applies to tiamat.

Doge2020Feb 21, 20191 votes

Well Kayle wouldn’t need Tiamat anyways when she gets to lvl 11 or even as early as lvl 6. Her waveclear looks pretty good with her passive.

Critmaster GarenFeb 21, 20191 votes

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Well Kayle wouldn’t need Tiamat anyways when she gets to lvl 11 or even as early as lvl 6. Her waveclear looks pretty good with her passive.

its not really about needing it. if she could build it, she would deal even crazier ranged teamfight aoe.

it was to be highly expected though that it doesnt work.