So has Riot given up on Lulu balancing?

IGotScuttleCrabs··2 votes·430 views

I actually hope so. Im really enjoying Mid Lulu (prefer mages with utility over assassins). And I feel they've gotten her to a "safe" spot for solo/duo lane. Sure she can be really strong solo lane but I feel its not over board and her support (while poke mages are out currently) is still fine due to just the utility.

Only reason Im wondering this is I decided to look at the exports page (never watch or follow the games) and saw that she's been played a few times Mid and it worries me that one of my favorite mid lanes will be pushed out just to be forced as a support only champ.

Just for curiosity Im throwing in a poll

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N0rth Wind3 votes

Personally I hate her with a passion in all lanes, however I wouldn't like to see her gutted. Perhaps a bit less oppressive if possible, but I like how she can fuction both as support and as AP.

DanofDemacia1 votes

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Personally I hate her with a passion in all lanes, however I wouldn't like to see her gutted. Perhaps a bit less oppressive if possible, but I like how she can fuction both as support and as AP.

Lulus not oppressive in lane your just bad

Athenes Lulu2 votes

I don't mind if she can go to more than one lane. I do have a problem when her supporting abilities are nerfed without compensation because she was oppressive in another lane, in which her abilities in that other lane is left unchanged. And I definitely do have a problem when sheep all call me a "freelo abuser" when in reality Lulu mid/top =/= Lulu support in terms of gameplay.

Since someone else explained the reasoning behind the Lulu mid/top craze, I'll just leave it as that:

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Pretty much the opposite has happened. People started playing Lulu mid a long time ago because Riot thought that supports would do better if they had scaling Utility. But that didn't encourage support to build AP. they couldn't with the gold they have.

Rather, they take said champion mid lane were they can actually scale said utility using solo lane farm. Which Riot decided was a healthy trade off, since The utility and supportive aspects replace the High damage presence a burst mage or assassin might have.

Don't forget that Lulu any lane needs items to stay useful. Support? Better build some off-tank stuff or else she's going to be gone in a flash. Mid/top? Better build some AP or else it's pointless staying squishy. "Meta" supports are not like that, they can literally run 0 items and stay just as useful.

Like MF ADC, Lulu support is pretty much outclassed, and hardly has a place there because of meta shifts. A little buff towards Lulu support wouldn't hurt, a little nerf to her solo laning wouldn't hurt as much either so it's not as oppressive to go against.

In fact, I would love to see more traditional supports taken into solo lanes; I just don't want poor Lulu to be the only fell victim. Her being the ONLY one (Kench doesn't count since he's created AFTER the tank botlane shift) only tells me that Riot is obviously playing favoritism like how they did to Thresh/Lee Sin/etc. Don't get me wrong here, it's not at all bad idea, but I just wanted more variety among champ pools.

Erockandroll1 votes

Pretty much the opposite has happened. People started playing Lulu mid a long time ago because Riot thought that supports would do better if they had scaling Utility. But that didn't encourage support to build AP. they couldn't with the gold they have.

Rather, they take said champion mid lane were they can actually scale said utility using solo lane farm. Which Riot decided was a healthy trade off, since The utility and supportive aspects replace the High damage presence a burst mage or assassin might have.

But the reason why Lulu is so good in particular is partially due to the fact that you will basically always be useful to your team even if you were shut down. And in the Pro scene. I don't actually think Lulu individually is OP, but she does make certain team comps Strong. (notably the Juggermaw comp.)

Personally, I pick up champs like Lulu because they are flex picks. It gives me more options, regardless of what lane I play in.

SlytherinUmbreon1 votes

Riot hasn't given up. You'll know when Riot gives up. Olaf Elise Evelynn

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Kassadin

BlackEyesBlue1 votes

I love Lulu as she is. She's a fun champ who needs strong team work to be her best. Out side of a pro setting she still seems pretty balanced.

Besides, she kind of falls into the Thresh category of her utility being so good, that the only real way to nerf her would be a total re-work!

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