Kennen with 58% winrate?

RcGjWO640w··6 votes·2,226 views

http://champion.gg/champion/Kennen/Top

So, Champion.gg actually paints Kennen as one of the most OP picks in the top lane by a pretty big margin. He has a 58% win rate in the top lane with a 53% win rate overall. What the hell changed to put Kennen in such a monsterous spot?

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MisterHealYoGirl5 votes

Champion.gg says that Kennen top has a 53% win rate, behind Kayle, Karthus, Pantheon, and Quinn. Could you be looking at his role rate?

RcGjWO640w2 votes

Am I misreading that? Is that this pick rate for that role or his win rate in that role? That's going to be really embarrassing if so... Lol. "Role rate" doesn't really tell me much.

MisterHealYoGirl3 votes

The role percent is the percent of Kennen games that are played top vs mid/support/adc. So 58% of Kennens go top, and another 34-ish percent go mid.

RcGjWO640w2 votes

Hmm... well... good to know, then.

Oleandervine4 votes

His lack of playerbase. He's only got 8500 games, as compared to Azir, who has like 19000. The more games that gets played, the more accurate the statistics will be.

RcGjWO640w2 votes

Still, the games I have played against him are always really hard. Kennen just comes out of top lane swinging like a monstertruck that walks like a Yordle. He does show that his win percentage is steadily climbing from 6.10 to now. I don't see a whole lot of Kennen, so I'm not exactly experienced with dealing with him.

Oleandervine3 votes

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Still, the games I have played against him are always really hard. Kennen just comes out of top lane swinging like a monstertruck that walks like a Yordle. He does show that his win percentage is steadily climbing from 6.10 to now. I don't see a whole lot of Kennen, so I'm not exactly experienced with dealing with him.

The thing about him is that he builds AP and he's got some pretty sizable cooldowns. It's a little difficult for him to easily stack his 3 Marks because of this, so the ticket to dealing with him is building MR and potentially stunning or rooting him to waste time so that his marks disappear. Additionally, his ult does hit really hard, so be wary of that. His E, the lightning ball speed boost thing, is his escape and one of his most reliable ways to apply his marks, so if he's having to use it to put marks on, you can most likely capitalize on his lack of escape.

RcGjWO640w2 votes

Good to know. With his win rate on a steady rise, I think now's as good a time as any to learn how he works to counter him, at least.

balbraaksel4 votes

item 3152

Sohleks1 votes

Delete that and maybe the Kennen flavor of the months will disappear. But I don't need that item.

balbraaksel1 votes

But it certainly helps Kennen a lot to use his ult effectively. Because of the dash there's less time to respond with CC or burst damage and the damage from the item active is quite good. This item enables Kennen to reach the back line much easier which is where the high priority targets are.

Marshbouy3 votes

.1% play rate 58% win rate is not op

60% play rate 52% win rate is op zed and lucian im looking at you

Poske3 votes

Its because Of R>W buff and Protobelt

Privileged Jew2 votes

Sigh. You can't look at JUST win rates and determine that a champ is somehow broken. Often, if a champ is seldom played, it will have a small community of players who main them, and so the win rate goes up because less people play the champ casually.

If it doesn't have an abnormally large play rate, then it's probably not broken.

TNHA Baritone2 votes

Any kind of credible disengage completely rekts him.

Sire Hippington2 votes

Matchups, irelias pickrate went down a bit for example while shen's went up, and now gues who's good vs kennen and who's not. But mostly because people now rush protobelt and delay the zhonya's, which in combination with the ult buffs he recived some patches ago is pretty huge on him. That instant repositioining with ult on prettymuch makes sure he can always get the full ult off on the important targets in a fight, leading to alot aoe cc and damage. Also, the aditional burst from protobelt is not to be underestimated, especially 1v1. And zohnya's also isn't that hot on him, he doesn't need the statsis cause he wants to move duering his ult and his opponents are usually stunned for the majority of the duration anyway, and the stats it gives are just poor, so people no longer rushing it helps his winrate aswell.

Honestly though, Protobelt is broken on any champ that synergies well with it. The active does stupid amounts of damage if you use it at the right distance. Each hit beyond the first adds another 30( +07% AP) to the 150 ( +35% AP) of the first, with 8 missles total. If you end the dash right on top of your opponent, all 8 missles hit for a total of 360 (+84% AP), and even if you end a bit infront of the target, it's still ~6 missles, so ~300 ( +70% AP).

EvilMerodach2 votes

100% of the Olaf's I've seen in the past month won lane.

######..I've only seen 1 olaf. But statistically he's OP as shit at my elo.

Arakadia1 votes

So tru.

RcGjWO640w2 votes

Not sure what this has to do with anything but... [slayer-pantheon-thumbs] Good for you.

ImTheRealGnar1 votes

New ap items, thunderlords, and just him not being popular. He's a really strong champion that can just destroy games if he is fed.

ImTheRealGnar1 votes

Also forgot that he also receive buffs in one of the patches. 6.8/6.9?

HongChongDong1 votes

For one thing they reworked his ult to now apply 1 stack instantly upon cast which is a massive change, and 2 kennen was always strong he just needed a bigger player base. Now people have realized that he's basically the Janna of the mid lane so everyone plays him.

Sohleks1 votes

I started playing ranked.

Sorry about that

I have 2 accounts in the 15-50 range with 70% Kennen winrates. That bulge is partly me lol

I kinda thought he'd be incredibly strong after the last changes though. I used to play other stuff but atm not much reason to (to be fair, I'm RLY good at this champ)

We really have to nerf Rylias first tho TBH. Rylias is core to my Kennen because it lets me 1v1 without my ultimate, which is crucial to winning the splitpush AND the teamfights. W/o it really hard to do both. It gives you a fat ton of HP, AP, and peeling and picking utility.

RcGjWO640w1 votes

Lol. Thanks a lot.

Rico Nasty1 votes

He honestly is just so difficult to play against. Like it's not fun at all. Once his passive is up and he throws his Q at you, you can't do anything except get bursted to hell and back.

Arakadia1 votes

Eh. It's easy to see his W passive up and if you walk away he misses cs. And his Q can be dodged.

Only Play Darius1 votes

Great. Another OP ranged top that makes it impossible to pick immobile melees

RcGjWO640w1 votes

Kennen, like all of the most popular burst top laners right now, hard counter themselves if they can't start a snowball. If you play tanky champions or just play safe in the early game and keep your team informed when they roam, they should never be able to get the farm or kills they need to stay relevant.

Remember that you don't have to kill your laner to beat them. You don't even have to take their tower. If you make them a non-factor in the mid game, you've done your job and you've won. Tanks don't give a shit if they have 3 kills or not.

Handin Out Naps1 votes

Kennen doesn't have to snowball to be useful... you are acting like he is an assassin. The guy brings so much utility and damage to teamfights

taleofsonata1 votes

His R does insane amount of damage, and is as strong as a Nunu ult. It's Damage and utilities with his R is insane. His R is what we call a Team killer Ulti.

Veltox1 votes

Try Zac you can just farm under turret if he manages to get you low.max q to harass back and if he uses e to apply stacks all in with yours and try to not push much without ult.

DEKInw1 votes

IDK MAN i just picked up kennel recently and I'm silver but i still destroy people with the r e protobelt w in fights

BremerdanGorst1 votes

They made Kennen ult more reliable I believe. Hits everyone in the AoE at certain intervals, rather than randomly as it used to. And Kennen's always been decently strong.

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